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Today's episode will be an interview about medieval aesthetics with Andrea Speer, who is the director of the Thomas Institute at the University of Cologne.

Hi Andreas.

Hi Peter.

Thanks for coming on the podcast. Thank you very much. It's a pleasure from me.

Well we're going to be talking about medieval aesthetics and that immediately raises a problem

because the medievals don't actually recognize aesthetics as a branch of philosophy alongside physics, ethics, metaphysics, etc.

And that raises the question of where we should be looking for their ideas about aesthetics if anywhere.

Yeah, in general this is not such an exception because there are other branches like let's say anthropology or if we talk about philosophy of mind, where we have also this kind of modern division of philosophy into branches and what we find in the divisiones philosophy at this time.

But there's some special case with aesthetics because maybe this field is much more designed

from a 19th century perspective and and even in the treatment of medieval aesthetics, if you go to some classics like Echos book or Asuntos book on medieval aesthetics, they seem to take over uncritically the definition of Hegel's

for Lesung, the aesthetic, that the subject of aesthetics is nothing but fine ours.

So we are really bound to it.

But what shall we do?

So my suggestion is and what I did is that we that we taken herminautical point of view.

And that means that we start with the way how people experience this what we call medieval art because the perception is also the

creation of the object as we know.

And let's start for for example, with our contemporary point of view and the reflections about it.

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