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🗓️ 19 December 2019

⏱️ 28 minutes

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Summary

On this week's New Statesman Podcast, Anoosh Chakelian is joined by Patrick Maguire to consider the fallout from last week's election. Is Scotland heading for a second independence referendum? Could Northern Ireland's nationalist parties push for a split there? And then, finally, in You Ask Us, they give a first appraisal to the runners and riders in the upcoming Labour leadership race.


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0:00.0

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0:11.0

So you can order your own fries instead of eating everyone else's.

0:15.0

Trains, now on Uber. T's and C's I'm joined by my colleague Patrick for this week's New Statesman

0:36.8

podcast. Stephen is in Wales interviewing Mark Drakeford, so he can't join us.

0:41.1

Today we're going to speak about the Union and its prospects after the election

0:44.6

result. How likely is it that we'll have a second Scottish referendum and what do the results

0:49.4

in Northern Ireland mean for the Union and also how will the Brexit deal affect Northern Ireland?

0:54.9

And you ask us what's going to happen in the Labour leadership election?

1:00.0

So one of the tweets that I dimly remember from the fog of election night was by

1:08.9

Alex Massey, a columnist at The Spectator and The Times and he said it's a very good night for the

1:13.6

Conservative Party but a very bad night for the Conservative and Unionist Party and

1:18.1

and since then the sort of received wisdom has been to say that the prospects of the

1:22.1

Union are now a lot dimmer since the election

1:25.4

result than they were before. What do you think of that kind of analysis?

1:28.8

Yeah, well it's interesting in that it's funny obviously that's the instinctive reaction go that the

1:32.9

Scottish Tories went from 13 seats to 7 the sMP absolutely

1:37.6

walloped both the Scottish Tories and Scottish Labour they turned Scotland

1:42.2

after 2017 was a country of sort of hyper- marginals, loads of

1:46.4

SMP holds with double or triple digits. Now you know basically you'd be hard-pressed to find a seat with an

1:55.0

SMP majority under a thousand. There are a couple, but they're very much the

1:58.4

rarity. So obviously any reasonable observer will look at that on election night or indeed the morning after

2:03.5

and say it's been a great night of the SMP, you know as the SMP is saying, you know, they've successfully

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