Holy Post Episode 471: Oreos, Ethics, & Afghanistan with Matthew Soerens

The Holy Post

Phil Vischer

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🗓️ 25 August 2021

⏱️ 89 minutes

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Summary

With religious believers among the most likely to downplay the seriousness of both the pandemic and climate change, a recent article claims secular people and atheists are now more empathic and moral than conservative Christians. But is the problem really that evangelicals are less moral, or that they’re more easily deceived? Then, Matthew Soerens from World Relief talks about the unfolding tragedy in Afghanistan. What dangers do the thousands of Afghans who helped the American military face as the Taliban takes back the country, and what obligation does the U.S. have to help them? While evangelicals remain widely opposed to welcoming refugees, will they make an exception for those who risked their lives to help American troops? Plus, a strike at Nabisco threatens the country’s Oreo supply, launching Phil into a rant about cookie varieties and late stage capitalism.

Patreon Bonus with David French: https://www.patreon.com/posts/55322869

News Segment:

Nabisco strike and Phil’s rant about cookie varieties [4:22] https://www.today.com/food/workers-us-nabisco-bakeries-are-strike-t228753

Afghanistan, Haiti, wildfires, floods, heatwaves and droughts [19:12]

Christian’s history with Afghanistan

[20:40] Current situation in Afghanistan [24:40]

Are Christians less empathic and moral, or simply more easily deceived? (Discussion of article below) [32:50] https://www.salon.com/2021/08/21/staunch-atheists-show-higher-morals-than-the-proudly-pious-from-the-pandemic-to-climate-change/

Interview with Matthew Soerens: “Welcoming the Stranger: Justice, Compassion & Truth in the Immigration Debate” - https://www.amazon.com/Welcoming-Stranger-Justice-Compassion-Immigration/dp/0830833595

Interview Start [56:00]

Talking with church leaders about Afghanistan crisis [58:00]

Overview of current situation and America’s history/promises in Afghanistan [59:24]

Responding to the rhetoric that opposes welcoming refugees [1:08:20] https://twitter.com/cortessteve/status/1427839604376444929?

lang=en Evangelical Immigration Table - Statement to President Biden [1:12:34]

https://evangelicalimmigrationtable.com/evangelical-leaders-insist-the-biden-administration-stand-with-afghan-allies/

Practical ways to support [1:14:22]

https://worldrelief.org/

Ongoing crisis - DREAMers and DACA program [1:17:01] https://evangelicalimmigrationtable.com/advocacy/

Transcript

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0:00.0	You're listening to episode 471 of The Holy Post.
0:03.7	On today's show, we look at an article in Solan that argues conservative Christians
0:08.3	are less moral and empathetic than atheists and secularists.
0:12.7	It largely comes down to the way different groups have responded to the pandemic and climate
0:16.4	change.
0:17.4	But is the real problem that evangelicals are less moral?
0:20.6	Or are they simply more likely to be deceived and distrusting of science?
0:25.1	Then we talk about the tragedy unfolding in Afghanistan.
0:28.6	Christian shares a touching story about her son's deployment to the country and I talk
0:32.7	with Matthew Sorens from world relief about the unfolding refugee crisis.
0:37.6	What obligation do we have to the thousands of Afghans who helped the US military over
0:41.8	the last 20 years?
0:43.5	And with US evangelicals among those least likely to welcome refugees into the country,
0:48.6	will they make an exception to those refugees from Afghanistan that helped our military?
0:53.0	All of that plus a strike at Nabisco is threatening the country's Oreo supply, which
0:58.3	launches fill into a rant about different cookie varieties, and what this all means about
1:02.8	late-stage capitalism.
1:04.9	Before we get into the episode, I have some good news for our Patreon supporters.
1:09.0	Earlier this week, I did a one-hour bonus interview with David French from the dispatch
1:13.5	about Afghanistan.
1:15.3	David French is an attorney, a writer, and an Iraq war veteran, so he has unique insights
1:20.7	into what's happening right now in Afghanistan.
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