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🗓️ 26 November 2022
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Ryan talks to mother-daughter duo Drs. Edith Enger and Marianne Engle about their work in clinical psychology, the power of spreading kindness in a world that often seems very cruel, letting go of the past through forgiveness, and more.
A native of Hungary, Dr. Edith Eva Eger was just a teenager in 1944 when she experienced one of the worst evils the human race has ever known. As a Jew living in Nazi-occupied Eastern Europe, she and her family were sent to Auschwitz. Her parents were sent to the gas chambers, but Edith’s bravery kept her and her sister alive. Toward the end of the war Edith and other prisoners had been moved to Austria. On May 4, 1945 a young American soldier noticed her hand moving slightly amongst a number of dead bodies. He quickly summoned medical help and brought her back from the brink of death. Dr. Eger is a practicing psychologist and a specialist in the treatment of post-traumatic stress disorder. She is the author of the bestselling memoir The Choice: Embrace the Possible and The Gift: 12 Lessons to Save Your Life.
Edith’s daughter, Dr. Marianne Engle, is a clinical psychologist, sports psychologist, and author of a sports psychology program for youth athletes and coaches. Her clients have included professional athletes and teams from the NBA, PGA, and the America’s Cup sailing race in addition to elite athletes in ice skating, baseball, tennis, soccer, water polo, squash, dressage, volleyball, etc. She is currently on the faculty of the NYU Langone Medical School. She has held faculty appointments at Harvard, MIT, and UCSD in addition to being a member of the World Economic Forum Global Agenda Council on Sport and Society. She is a board member of the NYU Sport and Society program. Marianne also has a long history as a food writer and cook.
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| 0:19.1 | Something to help you live up to those four Stoke virtues of courage, justice, temperance and wisdom. |
| 0:25.8 | And then here on the weekend we take a deeper dive into those same topics. |
| 0:30.8 | We interview Stoke philosophers, we explore at length how these Stoke ideas can be applied to our actual lives and the challenging issues of our time. |
| 0:42.8 | Here on the weekend when you have a little bit more space when things have slowed down, be sure to take some time to think, to go for a walk, |
| 0:52.8 | to sit with your journal and most importantly to prepare for what the week ahead may bring. |
| 1:06.8 | Hey, it's Ryan. Welcome to another weekend episode of the Daily Stoke podcast. |
| 1:10.8 | I was talking to a friend of mine who happens to be in her 90s. She'll come up a little bit in today's episode. |
| 1:16.8 | And we were talking about the Holocaust with this terrible rise of anti-Semitism, some of these athletes and celebrities who have used their platforms, not just not for good, but to propagate terrible, slanderous, heinous things. |
| 1:33.8 | Anyways, I was trying what I was trying to ask and I ended up asking my guest about this today as well. I was asking about how for like the first 15 or so years of this woman's life, almost two decades. |
| 1:47.8 | Since the Holocaust hadn't happened, she lived in a world where people were not fully aware of just how bad people could be to each other. |
| 1:59.8 | And I was just curious about what that is like. And that's one of the reasons I really, really like talking to people who have been alive so much longer than I have talked about my my late friend Richard Overton talked about George Ravling. |
| 2:13.8 | There's another person I met in New York many years ago, who I see whenever I can his name is Frederick Block. He's a federal court judge. |
| 2:19.8 | People who have been around for a long time have just just by nature of walking around in the planet, the four certain things, after certain things just have a sense of the world they have an inherent wisdom that we cannot have, but we can get from them. |
| 2:34.8 | And that's why I wanted to have today's guest, not just on the podcast, but back on the podcast. |
| 2:40.8 | My guest today is Dr. Eath Eager. Dr. Eager grew up in Nazi occupied Europe and she and her family were sent to Auschwitz. She and her sister survived her parents did not. |
| 2:52.8 | She was discovered literally in a pile of dead bodies, a soldier rescued her after seeing her hand move. She weighed less than 70 pounds. She had a broken back typhoid fever, pneumonia and everything else you can imagine. |
| 3:07.8 | And after the war she moved to the United States, fully in communism with her husband and then eventually got a degree in psychology. She met Dr. Victor Frankel, who she studied under and she began treating people with PTSD, which inspired her to continue working on healing herself. |
| 3:23.8 | Dr. Eager's daughter, Mary Ann, Engle is a licensed clinical psychologist and sports psychologist, her husband is a Nobel Prize winner. This is, you know, as close to the American dream, as you can imagine, I have raved about Dr. Eager's book, The Gift 14 Lessons to Save Your Life. |
| 3:41.8 | And the choice embraced the possible, both of which we sell at the Painted Port shall all link to those. And then she has a free online course called Forgiveness, The Gift I Give Myself, which I will link to, you go to www.DrEathEager.com to check that out. I'll link to all of it. |
| 4:00.8 | But I will say one quick note on this episode. First off, it's a little difficult to have two people on the show at the same time. It is difficult to do internet conferencing period, because sometimes there's lags and glitches, you know, if you ever try and talk to someone on zoom and you're not sure if they can hear you, they're not sure if you can hear them. |
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