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Conversations With Coleman

Hollywood's Death By Algorithm w/ Justine Bateman

Conversations With Coleman

The Free Press

Philosophy, Society & Culture

4.82K Ratings

🗓️ 28 July 2025

⏱️ 66 minutes

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Summary

Filmmaker and digital rights activist Justine Bateman joins me for a conversation on how AI is warping Hollywood and why the content we consume feels increasingly hollow. We dive into the decline of originality, the studios' addiction to algorithms, and how the “double-screen” era (watching while scrolling) has rewired audience expectations, pushing creators toward louder, faster, and shallower stories. Can art survive the attention economy? A special thanks to our sponsors: Go to groundnews.com/Coleman to get 40% off the unlimited access Vantage plan and unlock world-wide perspectives on today’s biggest news stories. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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0:00.0

Welcome to another episode of Conversations with Coleman. My guest today is Justine Bateman.

0:06.3

Justine is a filmmaker, author, and former actress who rose to fame as Mallory Keaton on the hit 80s

0:12.4

sitcom Family Ties. In recent years, she's moved behind the camera, making her directorial

0:18.4

debut in 2021 with the movie Violet. She's also published books on

0:22.8

fame and aging. In this episode, we talk about fame and its impact on identity. We talk about

0:29.0

the influence of streaming platforms on the film industry. We talk about the role of Gen AI in

0:34.2

creative fields. We discuss the societal shift towards digital interactions and much

0:39.2

more. So without further ado, Justine Bateman.

0:48.5

Why are podcasts like this one at all popular? We can't compete with the resources of a place like CNN.

0:57.0

I can't give you the sheer volume of analysis that the New York Times can, but there's one thing I have that those organizations lack. Trust.

1:05.0

I think my audience listens to me because they found my judgment to be trustworthy in the past,

1:11.2

but have found mainstream media organizations to be the exact opposite. That's why I love

1:17.1

Ground News. They're an app and website designed to help you escape ideological echo chambers

1:23.2

by pulling in the world's perspective on today's most emotionally and politically charged issues.

1:30.1

Ground news breaks down the political bent, reliability, ownership, and location of each reporting source,

1:36.9

so you understand that news isn't simply reported. Often, narratives are crafted.

1:42.8

For example, consider a recent story about the Department of Education

1:45.7

informing my alma mater, Columbia University, that they broke federal anti-discrimination laws

1:51.0

and failed to comply with accreditation requirements. There are many different ways to frame the story.

1:57.2

Instead of your typical news feed that uses algorithms to push or suppress certain angles,

2:02.0

if you go to ground.news slash Coleman, you can zoom out and understand the full scope of the story.

2:08.3

For instance, you can see that the Bloomberg headline frames it as

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