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History Unplugged Podcast

Hitler, Stalin, and a Jewish Couple Who Met After Surviving Their Extermination Programs

History Unplugged Podcast

History Unplugged

Society & Culture, History

4.23.7K Ratings

🗓️ 23 November 2023

⏱️ 47 minutes

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Summary

About four years ago Times of London journalist Daniel Finkelstein undertook an effort to tell his parents’ stories of survival in WW2 Europe. They met at a Jewish youth club in London in the Spring of 1956. He was twenty-six years old and she was twenty-two. Between them, they had lived in ten countries and survived years of hunger, disease, and the barest of survivals.

Daniel’s mother Mirjam Wiener was the youngest of three daughters born in Germany to Alfred and Margarete Wiener. Alfred, a decorated hero from the Great War, is now widely acknowledged to have been the first person to recognize the existential danger Hitler posed to the Jews and began, in 1933, to catalogue in detail Nazi crimes. After moving his family to Amsterdam, he relocated his library to London and was preparing to bring over his wife and children when Germany invaded Holland. Before long, the family was rounded up, robbed, humiliated, and sent to Bergen-Belsen.

Daniel’s father Ludwik was born in Lwow, (now Lviv) the only child of a prosperous Jewish family. In 1939, after Hitler and Stalin carved up Poland, the family was rounded up by the communists and sent to do hard labor in a Siberian gulag. Working as slave laborers on a collective farm, his father survived the freezing winters in a tiny house they built from cow dung.

Finkelstein is today’s guest and he’s here to discuss his new book “Two Roads Home: Hitler, Stalin, and the Miraculous Survival of My Family.” It is both a family story and a larger exploration of how an entire continent came apart.

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0:00.0

Scott here with another episode of the History Unplugged Podcast.

0:07.0

About four years ago, Times of London journalist Daniel Finkelstein

0:11.0

undertook an effort to tell his parents' stories of survival in World War II Europe.

0:15.2

The two met at a Jewish youth club in London in the spring of 1956. He was 26 in she was 22.

0:21.2

Between them they had lived in 10 countries and survived years of

0:24.0

hunger, disease, and the barest of survivals. Daniel's mother, Miriam Wiener, was the youngest of

0:29.1

three daughters born in Germany to Alfred and Margaret Wiener. Alfred was a decorated hero from the Great War,

0:34.4

believed to have been the first person to recognize the existential danger

0:37.3

Hitler posed to the Jews, and began in 1933

0:40.4

to catalog in detail Nazi crimes.

0:42.6

After moving his family to Amsterdam,

0:44.4

he relocated at his library to London

0:46.4

and was preparing to bring over his wife and children

0:48.6

when Germany invaded Holland.

0:50.1

Before long, the family was rounded up, robbed,

0:52.4

and sent to the concentration camp,

0:53.8

Bergen-Belsen. Daniel's father, Ludwig, was born in Lviv in Poland. In 1939,

0:59.4

after Hitler and Stalin carved up the country, a family was rounded up by communists and

1:03.4

sent to do hard labor in a Siberian gulock. They worked as slave laborers on a

1:06.9

collective farm and survived the freezing winters and a tiny house built

1:10.3

from cow-dong. Daniel Finkelstein is today's guest and he's here to

1:13.7

discuss his new book Two Roads Home, Hitler, Stalin, and the miraculous

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