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Tudors Dynasty & Beyond

Historical Tinder: Mary Rose Tudor & Charles V

Tudors Dynasty & Beyond

RedTop Media / Rebecca Larson

History

4.4794 Ratings

🗓️ 13 November 2025

⏱️ 47 minutes

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Summary

What if Henry VIII’s sister, Mary Rose Tudor, had married Emperor Charles V? In this playful but deeply historical “Historical Tinder” episode, Rebecca and Dr. Emma swipe right on dynastic possibility — exploring what this alternate union could have meant for England, Spain, and the entire Tudor dynasty. From shifting alliances and religious futures to Henry’s own ambitions and Anne Boleyn’s unlikely fate, we imagine how one royal match might have rewritten European history.

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Hosts:

Rebecca Larson

Dr. Emma Cahill Marron

Transcript

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0:00.0

You're listening to Dr. Emma and me on the Tudor's Dynasty and Beyond podcast. And now, here are your hosts.

0:10.0

Hello and welcome back to the show. I'm Rebecca Larson and it's Thursday and you're probably expecting another parallel lives for Dr. Emma and me, but we're not doing it today, are we? Emma?

0:22.2

Not today.

0:23.6

I know the last episode that we did with Dr. Ellie Woodick are at the end. I said, see you next

0:28.7

week for another parallel lives. And I hate to say it, but I lied to you. I lied to everybody.

0:34.6

Oh, Rebecca. People are going to be devastated.

0:38.3

Unless they listen to the rest of the episode.

0:41.1

And then it would be pretty happy about what we're going to talk about, I think.

0:43.9

I think so, too.

0:45.0

So you brought this up a few episodes ago.

0:47.4

I don't remember how many, but you brought up doing a historical Tinder.

0:51.5

And as usual, I was on the fence about it i'm not sure about that i have a problem

1:01.8

i really do like i feel like if it's not my idea i have to sit with it for a bit and make sure

1:07.5

it feels right all i have is. Do I ever make them happen occasionally?

1:14.8

If somebody like Rebecca helps me. Well, we're doing historical Tinder today. And the more we

1:22.5

talked about it, I just thought, yeah, this is a great idea. And some of the feedback from listeners that we got who had heard that we were considering it, they seemed excited. So we're going to try it. We're going to do a historical Tinder today. We're going to see what kind of feedback we get. And who knows, maybe we'll do a whole bunch more. Yes. I must confess, I've never used Tinder myself. Me either. I've used one dating app since my divorce and it was just a mess.

1:53.5

But I've heard enough horror stories to know we can relate it to the 16th century for sure.

1:59.7

We sure can. We sure, yeah.

2:01.2

You know, you guys, you're listening now and you probably think these ladies know what they're

2:06.3

talking about, right?

2:07.2

But before we hit record, neither of us had ever been on Tinder.

2:10.5

We didn't know how to use it.

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