Historian Hal Brands on COVID-19's Effect on World Order
Intelligence Matters
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🗓️ 9 September 2020
⏱️ 41 minutes
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In this episode of Intelligence Matters, host Michael Morell speaks with Hal Brands, historian and the Henry A. Kissinger Distinguished Professor of Global Affairs at the Johns Hopkins University School of Advanced International Studies, about a new compilation of essays dedicated to the effect of the COVID-19 pandemic on international security and world order. Brands, who co-edited the volume with colleague Francis Gavin, outlines the its major themes and observations, including how the outbreak may pose opportunities as well as challenges and how it may lead to a global counterbalancing coalition against a rising China. Brands also tells Morell how U.S. leadership, both domestic and international, will be pivotal to ensuring successful near- and long-term outcomes.
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| 0:00.0 | Hey, Prime members, you can listen to Intelligence Matters ad-free on Amazon Music. Download the app today. |
| 0:08.4 | This is Intelligence Matters with former acting director of the CIA, Michael Morrell. Brought to you by Lockheed Martin. Your mission is ours. |
| 0:18.4 | I think that we are going to look back on COVID in the way that we now look back on the events of |
| 0:25.0 | 1946-1947 with respect to the Cold War. As the event that really crystallized an emerging competition |
| 0:33.2 | between two great powers and made everyone realize that it was going on. |
| 0:40.4 | For many years after the Cold War, American policymakers hoped that the Chinese would become |
| 0:45.1 | responsible stakeholders in an American-international order. And what we've seen instead is that |
| 0:50.3 | his China's power has grown. It is clearly aspiring to something very different. If U.S. |
| 0:55.9 | maintains and strengthens its alliances, if it cultivates a strong community of democracies, |
| 1:01.6 | the balance of power will ultimately be on its side. If we don't, we're going to be at a major disadvantage. |
| 1:10.8 | How Brands is the Henry Kissinger Distinguished Professor of Global Affairs at the Johns Hopkins |
| 1:16.7 | School of Advanced International Studies? He served as a special assistant to the Secretary |
| 1:22.0 | of Defense for Strategic Planning from 2015 to 2016. How is the author or editor of many books, |
| 1:30.1 | including the co-editor of a just-released new book, COVID and World Order, the future of conflict, |
| 1:36.0 | competition, and cooperation? I just sat down with How to talk about his new book. We'll be right |
| 1:41.9 | back with that discussion. I'm Michael Morrell, and this is Intelligence Matters. |
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| 2:05.2 | falsely accused of stealing a backpack and held without bail at Reikers Island for three years. |
| 2:11.0 | He endured regular abuse by prison staff and inmates, and was held in solitary confinement |
| 2:16.3 | for more than 700 consecutive days. Three years later, Khalif was released, never having stood trial. |
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