I'm Anna, and I'm Emily, and we're the hosts of Terribly Famous, the show that takes

you behind the velvet rope and inside the lives of our most iconic stars.

This season, we're going to spice up your life, diving into the world of Victoria Beckham.

From her disastrous first Spice Girls audition to her fateful meeting with a certain footballer,

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This is CBS Islandworld, I'm John Baxter with Charles Pelagrino, my colleague, he's the author

of, To Hell and Back, which is the last train from Hiroshima, is the story of the two bombs

dropped in anger in 1945, Hiroshima and Nagasaki.

However, there is a new hit movie I've not seen called Oppenheimer.

Charlie has seen it, and Charlie and I have been corresponding about it.

The original book published in 2005 that Hollywood says that it based the movie on, I have to

be careful here, because I've read the original book, but here we are, these many years later,

and Hollywood has a way of having to put scenes together that were not in the original

research.

Charlie, the question that comes to mind again, because I've been looking at the book to

the question about Oppenheimer, is in 1945, the explanation for dropping the bomb turned

on the war, the rationalization, the casualties, the threats to the fleet, is that question

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