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The Interview

Hind Kabawat, Syrian Minister: It is hard to be the only woman, I feel lonely

The Interview

BBC

News, Politics, Government

4.3537 Ratings

🗓️ 2 February 2026

⏱️ 24 minutes

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Summary

'It's hard to be the only woman, I feel lonely sometimes because I’d like to have another woman colleague to talk to.’

The BBC’s Chief international correspondent, Lyse Doucet speaks to Hind Kabawat, Syria’s Minister for Social Affairs and Labour. and the only female minister in the transitional government.

She was born in India and grew up across the Middle East and Europe. Her life has been shaped by movement, exile and conflict. She studied economics in Damascus, law in Beirut, and later continued her education in the United States.

During Syria’s war, she worked abroad on diplomacy and legal reform, advising on negotiations and pushing for greater representation of women in public life. After the fall of the Assad regime and the creation of a transitional authority, she returned home to take up public office.

In this conversation, she talks about power, responsibility, and what leadership means in a country still reckoning with more than a decade of conflict.

Thank you to the Global Women team for their help in making this programme.

The Interview brings you conversations with people shaping our world, from all over the world. The best interviews from the BBC, including episodes with the Colombian president Gustavo Petro, the Palestinian-American human rights lawyer Noura Erekat and Mexican actor Diego Calva. You can listen on the BBC World Service on Mondays, Wednesdays and Fridays at 0800 GMT. Or you can listen to The Interview as a podcast, out three times a week on BBC Sounds or wherever you get your podcasts.

Presenter: Lyse Doucet Producers: Lina Shaikhouni, Farhana Haider Editor: Justine Lang

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(Image: Hind Kabavat Credit: Beyza Comert/Getty Images)

Transcript

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0:00.0

BBC Sounds, Music, Radio, podcasts.

0:06.0

Hello, I'm Lees-Ducet, the BBC's chief international correspondent,

0:10.9

and this is the interview from the BBC World Service,

0:14.5

the best conversations coming out of the BBC,

0:18.1

people shaping our world from all over the world.

0:22.7

If you're not a little bit afraid, then you're not paying attention.

0:27.3

We have never seen a people so united.

0:30.9

Do not make that boat crossing. Do not make that journey.

0:33.6

Being born in America, feeling American, having people treat me like I'm not.

0:37.7

We're more popular than populism.

0:40.6

For this interview, I met Hind Kabawat, the Minister for Social Affairs and Labor, in Syria's

0:47.4

first interim cabinet, a government dominated by the close aides and former fighters linked

0:53.7

to Syria's new president, Ahmed al-Shara.

0:57.0

Born in India and raised between the Middle East and Europe, Hind Kabawat's life has been

1:02.3

shaped by Syria's strife. She studied economics in Damascus, law in Beirut, before continuing

1:09.7

her education in Canada and the United States.

1:13.5

During the long years of Syria's brutal war, Hind played a leading role in Syria's exiled opposition.

1:21.5

She established her own organization, helping Syrian women develop skills in leadership and peace building.

1:28.9

After the sudden fall of the Assad regime in December 24, ending decades of dictatorship,

1:35.8

she returned home to play a part in building the new Syria.

1:40.7

Hind speaks to me about the challenges of moving a nation from war to peace, about building trust,

1:47.8

and what it's like being the only woman at the top table.

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