Hillary Clinton on Trump’s second term; The UN Secretary General on the ‘very negative impact’ of Trump’s funding cuts to the UN; Mossad’s former chief on Israel’s Gaza offensive

Fareed Zakaria GPS

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🗓️ 21 September 2025

⏱️ 39 minutes

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Today on the show, Fareed speaks with former Secretary of State Hillary Clinton in her first TV interview since the reelection of President Donald Trump and gets her take on Trump’s second term so far. She joins the show alongside Keren Yarhi-Milo, dean of Columbia University’s School of International and Public Affairs, to discuss their new book "Inside the Situation Room: The Theory and Practice of Crisis Decision-Making.”Then, UN Secretary-General António Guterres sits down with Fareed to discuss the Trump administration’s efforts to cut hundreds of millions of dollars to the UN, along with the ongoing wars in Gaza and Ukraine. Finally, Fareed asks former Mossad director Yossi Cohen about what Israel’s latest offensive in Gaza City means for an end to the war, the future of the Iranian regime, and his new book “The Sword of Freedom: Israel, Mossad, and the Secret War.” Guests: Hillary Clinton (@HillaryClinton), Keren Yarhi-Milo (@YarhiMilo), António Guterres (@antonioguterres), Yossi Cohen Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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0:00.0	This is GPS, the Global Public Square.
0:04.0	Welcome to all of you in the United States and around the world.
0:07.0	I'm Farid Zakaria, coming to you from New York.
0:10.0	Today on the program,
0:14.0	political violence in America,
0:18.0	Gaza, Ukraine.
0:22.6	We have a wide-ranging conversation with Hillary Rodham Clinton and Karen Jarhe Miller.
0:27.6	We have a violence problem in our country.
0:30.6	Together they edited an incisive new book inside the situation room.
0:36.6	Then world leaders will descend on New York City this week for the United Nations General Assembly.
0:44.3	Some will not be there this year because they were refused visas by the Trump administration.
0:50.3	And when President Trump speaks at the UN on Tuesday,
0:52.3	he'll be talking to an organization from which he just moved to cut hundreds of millions of dollars of funding.
0:59.0	I went to the UN to talk to Secretary General Antonio Gutierrez.
1:04.0	Finally, how might the war in Gaza end?
1:10.0	I'll talk to Yosecon, the former director of Mossad, Israel's foreign intelligence agency.
1:19.6	But first, here's my take.
1:21.6	Watching the intense polarized debates about everything these days,
1:26.6	from the aftermath of the
1:28.1	Charlie Kirk assassination to Jimmy Kimmel's suspension, I've been thinking about the very
1:33.7	different atmosphere in Washington when I started my professional life.
1:38.4	It was 1986, the peak of the Reagan years, and I was a lowly reporter researcher at the New Republic, then the hottest
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