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Talking Real Money - Investing Talk

Hidden Wealth

Talking Real Money - Investing Talk

Don McDonald

Business, Education, Investing, How To

4.2 • 680 Ratings

🗓️ 8 May 2025

⏱️ 29 minutes

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Summary

On this Talking Real Money episode, Don and Tom tag-team one of the biggest financial myths around: your house as a retirement plan. With over $35 trillion locked in U.S. home equity, they challenge the idea that owning a home equals wealth. From the emotional pull of mortgage payoffs to the liquidity traps of reverse mortgages and HELOCs, the duo breaks down the risks, rewards, and real returns of homeownership. Then it’s on to listener questions about IRAs, 401(k)s, rollovers, and... fiber (yes, the breakfast and internet kind). And they end with a little brag—because 154,000 monthly listeners can’t be wrong. 0:04 $35 trillion tied up in homes—does that make us rich or just house-poor?1:20 Post-COVID home equity boom: 80% growth, but at what cost?2:53 Renting vs. buying: the case for liquidity over bricks3:44 Property tax pain for retirees and why Florida isn't so tax-free after all4:21 Mortgage payoff: emotional win, financial mistake?5:48 Why home equity shouldn’t be your retirement income plan6:37 Housing’s historic returns: barely 3% pre-inflation7:54 Forced savings illusion and the real cost of home improvements8:45 If you’d invested instead of buying… you’d have more9:35 Reverse mortgages, HELOCs, and why it’s harder to get cash out10:19 Home equity lines now ~8%—not cheap or easy to get12:30 Big picture: don’t include home equity in your retirement spending plan14:05 Florida vs. California: which really costs more to live in?16:38 Insurance, taxes, and Florida's fraud problem18:50 Listener Q: Can you do both an IRA and a 401(k) in the same year? (Yes.)20:40 IRA vs. 401(k): pros, cons, and personal strategy22:53 Listener Q: Should we roll an old 403(b) to a Roth IRA?23:44 Talking Real Money’s audience numbers: brag-worthy and booming25:19 Retirement prep tip: match income to lifestyle before you retire Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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0:35.0

Reality for a really great future.

0:38.0

We're talking real money.

0:40.8

Dang, there is a lot of money at stake here.

0:44.2

There's a lot of money tucked away in houses.

0:51.9

And as a matter of fact, it's a substantial portion of Americans' wealth. It's about

0:58.4

35, get this, not B billion, but T trillion dollars is tied up in our houses, our homes,

1:09.9

a big source of wealth. Is that a good thing or a bad thing? That is the topic

1:14.7

of discussion here on today's talking real money along with some of your questions. So,

1:18.9

what do you think, Tom? Good thing, bad thing? Do you know, I knew a guy once... Is it a thing?

1:24.6

I knew a guy once actually beyond that that had $200,000 of money buried in his backyard.

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