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One year ago, a white man came to a supermarket in Buffalo, New York.

He just walked around and shot all the black people.

How do you make sense of something, this terrible?

When you're a kid.

I think it was all my fault.

Listen now to the latest series from NPR's Embedded Podcast.

Hello and welcome to How I Built This Lab. I'm Guy Ross.

So, when we last had Davis Smith on the show, it was March of 2020.

COVID-19 lockdowns had just begun.

Retail stores were shuttering and we just had no idea what the next few weeks or months or even years would look like.

Now at the time, Davis' company, the outdoor gear and clothing brand, Codopaxi,

had been around for about six years and it was just on the edge of turning a profit for the first time.

And in that episode, he told the incredible story of how he went from selling pool tables online and baby supplies in Brazil to building a brand that makes quality gear and clothing using mainly recycled and remnant materials and then donate a portion of their revenue to nonprofits that are fighting poverty around the world.

Plus, he explained why he bought two llamas on Craigslist to help launch the brand.

It's a great story and if you haven't heard it, you should definitely go back into our podcast queue and listen to that episode.

Anyway, we invited Davis back onto the show this week because he has some major updates to share, like lessons from COVID-19 and shifting to a remote first workplace or how Codopaxi's social impact work has evolved.

And why he's recently decided to step down from his role as CEO to take on a new challenge, move back to Brazil and dedicate three years of his life to serving his church.

Davis, great to have you back. Welcome back to the show. Yeah, thank you, guys. This is so fun. It's so fun to be back.

All right. We're going to obviously get an update on what's going on in your life because it's a pretty significant update. But let's go back to where we left off in March of 2020.

This was you were one of the first interviews I did right as COVID was just like blowing up and you were obviously really nervous, right?

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