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Hi-Phi Nation: Living in a Zoopolis

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🗓️ 18 April 2023

⏱️ 47 minutes

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Summary

A zoopolis is a future society that philosophers envision where wild, domesticated, and denizen animals have full political and legal rights. What would that look like? In this episode, we look at how animals were put on trial in medieval European courts, and how animal rights advocates and bringing animals back into the courtrooms to sue people and the US government. We then look at what the science of animal minds tells us about how much agency animals have, and envision what political and legal rights various animals would have in a zoopolis. From there, we discuss and debate whether we should be allowed to farm animals, control their reproduction, and have them work for us. Co-produced with Alec Opperman, guests include historian Gabriel Rosenberg, attorney Monica Miller, and animal minds researcher Professor Kristin Andrews. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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0:00.0

What's up guys, I am Ashley Gavin, and I am your father.

0:03.1

I'm Elena Joy, I am Mommy, and I'm Mackin from your hot teenage brother.

0:08.4

Baby, Mack is baby.

0:09.7

We are your chosen family, because you don't have a gay family and you need a gay family.

0:14.3

Every week, we bring a topic to the family dinner table from gender dysphoria,

0:17.9

to monogamy, to how to figure out if someone is into you.

0:20.5

Listen to Chosen Family every Wednesday on your favorite podcast app,

0:24.0

or watch full episodes on YouTube to get the full family experience.

0:27.7

Chosen Family is a part of the Forever Dog podcast network.

0:33.1

Hi, my name is Jim.

0:34.3

I show where philosophy and reality meet.

0:37.5

From sweet, sweet, sweet.

0:40.5

It's Burgundy, France, in a city named Ahtun, early Renaissance.

0:46.5

Even then, Burgundy was famous for its wine,

0:50.4

but Ahtun sits on soil that's only good for growing barley and wheat.

0:55.6

Well, in 1522, rats got into the barley crop,

1:00.3

ate through much of it, and that could very well destroy the livelihood of the peasants who grew it,

1:06.1

maybe even lead to starvation for the people who rely on the grain for food.

1:12.0

This is a big problem for the people in charge, which back then were the clerics.

1:17.5

The local bishop kind of huddles it up with the other heads of the church in the area.

1:22.4

That's Gabriel Rosenberg, historian at Duke University.

1:26.4

And they decide that they're going to put the rats on trial,

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