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Here's What 'Oppenheimer' Gets Right--and Wrong--about Nuclear History

Science Quickly

Scientific American

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4.31.4K Ratings

🗓️ 21 July 2023

⏱️ 15 minutes

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Summary

Here’s what a historian who has studied J. Robert Oppenheimer for two decades has to say about the new Christopher Nolan film on the father of the atomic bomb.

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0:30.1

This is Cosmos Quickly, and I'm Lee Billings. In this episode, we're talking with a nuclear

0:42.4

historian about the new Christopher Nolan blockbuster, Oppenheimer, a film about one of the most

0:47.4

complex and tragic figures of the early atomic age. I'm very pleased to welcome Alex Wellerstein

0:57.1

to Cosmos Quickly. Alex is a nuclear historian and professor at the Stevens Institute of Technology

1:02.1

in Hoboken, New Jersey, and the author of the 2021 book Restricted Data, the history of nuclear

1:07.6

secrecy in the United States. And Alex, welcome to the program. Yeah, I'm really glad to be here.

1:13.2

We're going to be talking about Christopher Nolan's new film, Oppenheimer, which Alex and I both

1:17.8

saw at a pre-screening event a few days ago and blew our socks off in more ways than one.

1:22.9

Should be a fun conversation. Tell us a little more about what you know about Oppenheimer,

1:28.6

what your relationship to Oppenheimer is and how that influenced how you viewed this movie.

1:35.1

I've been sort of thinking about Oppenheimer as a person and his history for about 20 years,

1:41.3

and so it's a little odd to watch a movie about someone you've spent a lot of time reading their

1:49.6

letters, their FBI files, their security hearing transcripts. I take some credit for essentially

1:57.5

finding the unredacted versions of the security hearing transcript, which had been mislabeled and

2:04.5

misfiled by National Archives, and I found them on a lucky check. Yeah, I've been thinking about

2:13.0

Oppenheimer a long, long, long time and trying to make sense of him. I'm not a biographer of

2:18.5

Oppenheimer, so I'm not in love with Oppenheimer. I haven't sort of internalized him as my hero subject.

2:25.2

I think he's a pretty complicated character, and I'm interested in him as a complicated character,

2:30.0

and it is part of the sort of complicated times. Complicated times. And just to be clear,

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