Henry Farrell on Weaponized Interdependence, Big Tech, and Playing with Ideas
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🗓️ 23 October 2019
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Summary
The one concept most valuable for understanding the news today might be Henry Farrell’s theory of weaponized interdependence. Whether it’s China’s influence over the NBA, the US ban of Huawei, or whether social media should be regulated on a global scale, Henry Farrell has played a key role articulating how global economic networks can enable state coercion.
Tyler and Henry discuss these issues and more, including what a big tech breakup would mean for security and privacy, why political economics suggests Facebook’s Oversight Board won’t work, what Italy might reveal about China’s future, his family connection to Joyce, his undying affection for My Bloody Valentine, why Philip K. Dick would have reveled in QAnon, why Twitter seems left-wing, and being a first generation academic blogger.
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Recorded October 7th, 2019
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| 0:27.7 | Hello. |
| 0:28.7 | Today with Henry Farrell, I first learned of Henry through his blogging at Cricut Timber. |
| 0:33.0 | He has been a co-founder there. |
| 0:35.2 | But Henry, in addition to that, is a professor of political science at George Washington. |
| 0:40.4 | He has written two notable books, The Political Economy of Trust, and more recently with Abraham |
| 0:45.6 | Newman of privacy and power. |
| 0:48.4 | He has popularized and developed the notion of weaponized interdependence, and done in |
| 0:53.6 | fact much, much more in the popular sphere. |
| 0:56.4 | He is an incoming editor at Monkey Cage blog at The Washington Post, and is written just |
| 1:01.5 | about everywhere else you can imagine. |
| 1:03.6 | Henry, welcome. |
| 1:04.6 | I'm delighted to be here. |
| 1:06.4 | First question. |
| 1:07.4 | If we think about the Chinese company Huawei, what can and should the United States government |
| 1:13.6 | do to counter Huawei from controlling 5G communications networks for its main allies? |
| 1:19.2 | What the US government is currently doing is considering using its control of supply networks |
| 1:25.4 | in order to try to block Huawei, because Huawei relies substantially on chips which are |
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