Hello and welcome to the Story Grid podcast. This is a show dedicated to helping you become a better

writer. I'm your host Tim Graal and I am a struggling writer trying to figure out how to tell a

story that works. Joining me shortly is Sean Coyne. He is the creator of Story Grid, the author of

the book Story Grid and an editor with over 25 years experience.

In this episode, it becomes kind of far-ranging and random.

I submitted to him my first seven scenes of the second draft

and kind of steeled myself for an hour of ripping it apart.

And as you can see pretty quickly, he's pretty happy with it.

So we start talking, though, about the different sides of the brain that you use as a writer,

the kind of, I don't know, the kind of intuitive and the thinking brain. He goes deep into it.

And it's really helpful as you think about, about you know we talk a lot about switching between

the editor brain and the writer brain so we go deep into that and some other different topic so i

hope you enjoy this episode let's jump in and get started so sean i ended up sending you the

first seven scenes from the novel.

So backing up, I finished the first draft of the novel several months ago.

We spent a couple months walking through all the different tools,

the story grid tools for evaluating a first draft.

So we went, we spreadsheeted each scene.

We did a brainstorm and kind of mind dump on each scene. Then we used the hero's journey. Then I don't know, a couple other things. They're all

in the back past podcast. You can go see that. And then we were taking a break and looking at my

nonfiction book. And now we're're going to I'm working on the

second draft of the novel and in the first draft the beginning hook so the first part of the

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