Our lives as Christians are full of challenging situations, painful trials, and unexpected disappointments.

And in the midst of all such difficulties, we can sometimes feel like failures when our lives don't reflect our Savior like we wish they did.

What do we do when our faith feels weak, or our walk with Christ feels like a mess?

In our interview today, I'm talking with Lewis and Sarah Allen.

Sarah leads the women's ministry,

and Lewis serves as senior pastor of Hope Church

in Huddersfield, West Yorkshire, England.

They're also the co-authors of resilient faith,

learning to rely on Jesus in the struggles of life from Crossway. Let's get started.

Well, Lewis and Sarah, thank you so much for joining me today on the Crossway podcast.

Thank you, Matt. It's good to be here. Hello. Great to be here. So I think it's a pretty

common experience for Christians to, at some point in their lives, great to be here. So I think it's a pretty common experience for Christians to

at some point in their lives feel discouraged in their walk with God, to feel like their faith

is maybe particularly weak or just to feel like their Christian life is a mess. To start us off,

I wonder if you two can resonate with that feeling. Louis, let's start with you.

Thanks, Matt. Yeah, I think in motion temperamentally, I'm a very balanced person. But see me most

Mondays, I'm a pastor, Sunday's big work, they're big focus. Yeah, I'm feeling pretty, pretty messy,

pretty weak, pretty tender pretty tender like god's

I still believe what I preached on Monday it just feels harder when you know when you're

exhausted and you see problems you deal with problems and you see your own heart so

definitely can relate to that how about you Sarah have you ever felt like your life was just a mess?

Yeah, certainly. I think being a parent just brings with it semi-joys, but also plenty of

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