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Hello, Cleveland: Troy Senik on Man of Iron | Peter Robinson | Hoover Institution

Uncommon Knowledge

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🗓️ 6 December 2022

⏱️ 71 minutes

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Summary

In his new book, Man of Iron, author Troy Senik discusses Cleveland’s improbable rise from obscure lawyer in upstate New York to mayor of Buffalo, governor of New York, and finally, in 1885, president of the United States; followed by his subsequent loss of the White House in the election of 1888 to Benjamin Harrison, and his unprecedented—and as yet unrepeated—return to the Oval Office after beating Harrison in 1892.

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The former president is ready for a comeback despite being a political novice and facing a sex

0:05.2

scandal that nearly ended his campaign. He took down a titan of the political establishment

0:09.6

in a first bid for the White House, squeezing into office by the slimmest of margins.

0:14.7

After four years of disrupting business as usual in Washington, he was denied re-election in a

0:19.2

close race that some of his supporters claimed was stolen from him. And now he looks poised for a

0:26.4

third presidential run at a historic restoration to office. The year is 1892 and the former president

0:36.3

in question is not Donald Trump or anyone even remotely like him. It's Grover Cleveland.

0:43.6

Troy Seneca, the author of a splendid new biography on Grover Cleveland,

0:48.0

on Uncommon Knowledge Now.

1:01.2

Welcome to Uncommon Knowledge, I'm Peter Robinson. A graduate of Belmont University and

1:06.0

Pepperdine, Troy Seneca served as a speechwriter for President George W. Bush.

1:11.4

He has written extensively on politics, served as vice president of the Manhattan Institute

1:16.6

and hosts the Law Talk podcast. He is also a founder of Kite and Key, a digital media company devoted

1:24.0

to public policy. And now Troy Seneca has published a book, A Man of Iron, the turbulent life and

1:33.1

improbable presidency of Grover Cleveland. Troy, welcome. Peter, delighted to be with you.

1:40.2

All right, I'm going to begin with the back of this book. I'm quoting from the acknowledgements.

1:44.8

You write about your pals, Matt Latimer and Keith Urban, who run something called Javelin,

1:49.8

the literary agency. And you mentioned that, quote, during a purely social visit,

1:56.4

they told you there was a market for a new Grover Cleveland biography. By the way, that strikes me

2:02.4

as an odd conversation right there. But it gets stranger. Neither of them realizing that they

2:08.0

were sitting across the table from someone, Troy Seneca, who had been nursing that ambition

2:14.1

for the better part of two decades. Close, quote. You spent almost 20 years wanting to write a

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