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🗓️ 20 June 2025
⏱️ 52 minutes
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If you like a good story, we think you’ll like this episode.
This week, we’re honored to welcome John Kasich—a national leader, lifelong public servant, and gifted storyteller. Throughout his career, he’s met thousands of people, and he’s here to share just a few of the stories that have stayed with him.
As the 69th Governor of Ohio (2011–2019), Gov. Kasich led with a focus on unity and problem-solving. He rose to national prominence during his 2016 presidential run and continues to serve today through his work with the Kasich Company, his role as a political analyst for NBC and MSNBC, and as the author of several New York Times bestsellers.
His latest book, Heaven Help Us: How Faith Communities Inspire Hope, Strengthen Neighborhoods, and Build the Future, is the heart of this week’s conversation.
John shares some of his personal journey—including how the sudden loss of his parents in a car accident became a life-altering moment. He also invites us into the deeply moving stories from his new book—stories of ordinary people in churches, synagogues, and mosques doing extraordinary work to serve their neighbors. These aren’t just heartwarming accounts; they’re powerful reminders of how faith can drive tangible, lasting change.
This conversation moves quickly—so we encourage you to grab a copy of Heaven Help Us and spend time with these stories yourself.
Join us for a conversation full of hope, challenge, and inspiration—about what’s possible when we come together, rooted in faith, to love our neighbors and build a better world.
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0:00.0 | You don't have to look far to see it. |
0:07.6 | Heartache is everywhere. |
0:09.9 | In your workplace, in your community, and with the people you love. |
0:14.7 | There's a quiet but steady weight of trauma, grief, and untold stories. |
0:20.7 | And if you're someone others turn to, someone who listens, holds space, and shows up, |
0:27.1 | then you've probably felt the limits of what you can carry on your own. |
0:31.5 | That's where narrative-focused trauma care comes in. |
0:34.7 | This training from the Allender Center is designed to equip you to engage the |
0:39.1 | effects of trauma with wisdom and compassion. Starting with narrative-focused trauma level one, |
0:45.6 | you'll receive rich teaching that explores trauma, identity, shame, attachment, and family of origin, |
0:53.6 | integrating psychological insight with a theological |
0:56.6 | understanding of God's redeeming work in our lives. But what makes this training truly transformative |
1:03.6 | is your small facilitator-led story group. These groups are where concepts become personal. |
1:10.4 | It's where you begin to see how your own |
1:12.6 | story connects to the kind of healing and care you want to offer others. Because at the Allender Center, |
1:19.2 | we believe you can't guide others where you haven't gone yourself. Narrative-focused trauma |
1:24.8 | care level one training is for anyone ready to grow in clarity, capacity, and care, for your own story, and for the stories entrusted to you. |
1:34.5 | Applications for our next training cohort are now open. |
1:38.5 | To find out more about narrative-focused trauma care training with the Allender Center. Visit the Allendercenter.org |
1:45.4 | slash trainings. Thank you for listening to the Allender Center podcast. I'm Dr. Dan Allender. |
1:54.1 | And I'm Rachel Clinton-Centen. We're fiercely committed to providing hope and healing to a fragmented |
1:59.4 | world. And restoration for the heart. |
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