Heather Cox Richardson on Her Book Democracy Awakening
The Al Franken Podcast
The Al Franken Podcast
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🗓️ 7 January 2024
⏱️ 59 minutes
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Summary
Heather says that Trumpers have bought into an alternative reality and that we are, at this moment, on a knife’s edge. She’s an historian and not a clairvoyant. But she’s also an activist, doing all she can to spread the word through historical analysis. Beat that, Trump!
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| 0:08.4 | Hey everyone! Hey everybody. Well, we're starting the new year with a great one for once. |
| 0:20.0 | Heather Cox Richardson joins me to talk about her New York Times best-selling book Democracy |
| 0:27.7 | Awakening. |
| 0:28.7 | You might know Heather if you're one of the millions of subscribers to her daily |
| 0:34.0 | sub-stack, the most popular one in America, and if you listen to this one |
| 0:39.2 | today, you'll understand why. In our conversation Heather says we are on a knife's edge |
| 0:47.3 | meaning that we could go either way this year. I'm talking about the first Tuesday |
| 0:52.4 | after the first Monday in November, November 5th. |
| 0:56.0 | Yikes. |
| 0:58.0 | You know, while Trump was president, I was always very careful not to use words about him like like fascist because fascism is and I quote a far |
| 1:11.4 | right authoritarian political ideology |
| 1:15.0 | characterized always by an authoritarian leader, |
| 1:18.5 | forcible suppression of opposition, |
| 1:21.4 | and a belief in a natural social hierarchy. |
| 1:25.0 | And I don't remember where I got that, but it seems right. |
| 1:30.0 | Anyway, even when I was tempted, I was always careful not to use the word fascist about |
| 1:37.0 | Trump. But Trump's rhetoric these days is making it hard to avoid the word because he's been going to the language of blood poisoning |
| 1:49.6 | He has said several times now that the people coming across the border are quote |
| 1:54.8 | poisoning the blood of our country. |
| 1:58.5 | And I got that straight from Trump's mouth. |
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