If we look at space heaters, for example, like a household space heater, they're often 1,500 to 1,500 watts.

And knowing how quickly they can heat up a room, it gives you some perspective for the amount of heat that you're actually generating as an athlete.

So when you're cycling, you need to be able to get rid of all this heat very effectively.

The Trafalon show, 160.

Hey, what's up, everybody, and welcome back to another episode of That Triathlon Show, the podcast presented by Scientific Traathlon.com.

I'm your host Michael and on today's episode I interview Andrew Buckroll, co-founder of Stack, who as you know are great friends of the show and currently

a sponsor as well.

So Andrew, I'm super grateful to have got to know him over the last more than a year, I think.

Now, Andrew might remind me when we first got connected.

But anyway, he is super nice and he's super smart as evident from

how innovative stacks bike trainers are not to mention the virtual wind tunnel technology

that stack also provides which you can check out in episode 47 when i interviewed andrew

the last time but as we get into a bit in the

interview, he's now already looking ahead into the next area where he believes and makes some

great arguments for why the next big endurance breakthroughs might come from. And that is heat.

And specifically how to deal with and how to get rid of excess heat

because at a certain point once our machines our bodies run too hot it will inevitably force us to

slow down so so learning how to deal with this and and have making plans for how to minimize this heat buildup that is critical.

And that's what we'll get into today.

So Stack is the sponsor of today's episode.

And Andrew, as I said, is Stack's co-founder.

You can find Stack on StackZero.com.

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