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Notes from America with Kai Wright

Hear No Evil: Asylum Policy in America

Notes from America with Kai Wright

WNYC Studios

News Commentary, Politics, History, News

4.41.5K Ratings

🗓️ 4 October 2021

⏱️ 50 minutes

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Summary

Displaced Haitians are still seeking safe harbor. But the U.S. long ago abandoned the ideal that all migrants should at least be allowed to tell their stories. Host Kai Wright is joined by globally recognized immigrant rights advocate and professor at Columbia Law School, Elora Mukherjee, to break down asylum. When refugees arrive, how do we respond, and how are we all implicated in that choice? Companion listening for this episode: Wash. Rinse. Repeat. Haiti and International Aid (8/23/2021) Haiti’s recent tragedies revives a conversation about disaster, aid, and how people recover. Then, a discussion about perspective on the 30th anniversary of the Crown Heights riots. “The United States of Anxiety” airs live on Sunday evenings at 6pm ET. The podcast episodes are lightly edited from our live broadcasts. To catch all the action, tune into the show on Sunday nights via the stream on WNYC.org/anxiety or tell your smart speakers to play WNYC. We want to hear from you! Connect with us on Twitter @WNYC using the hashtag #USofAnxiety or email us at anxiety@wnyc.org.

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0:00.0

Hey Nadez.

0:01.0

Hey Kai.

0:02.0

So we've turned to you to understand the relationship between Haiti and the United States and now a lot of

0:07.9

displaced Haitians have been deported from the U.S. Mexico border.

0:11.2

People are still coming.

0:12.5

So as someone who has reported on this in some degree and has ties to the community, what is your hope

0:18.4

for how we would interact with displaced people when they arrive here?

0:21.6

Being heard is the hope, or one of the main things for me that comes to mind is like why not let

0:27.8

people make their case you're coming here to be heard and seeking asylum is not an illegal act in order to seek asylum you have to be here on US soil

0:37.8

It's the silencing for me right? It's the what are you afraid of like why are you afraid to hear the human stories?

0:45.6

They put everything on the line to get here so why not hear them once they're here?

0:50.4

That is the question we are going to try to answer together tonight.

0:54.0

Has anyone in your family history ever had to flee their home?

1:05.0

My background was Haitian and African American.

1:08.0

My grandmother's mother was a slave.

1:10.0

So when I was younger and growing up I would hear that story.

1:13.3

Seeing right now what's going on in Haiti

1:15.4

or even what's going on in Texas in our country,

1:18.6

dealing with Haitians that are coming across the border

1:20.8

and fleeing and just trying to get into country but they're getting

1:23.4

whipped like creatures are animals and knowing I'm half-patient you know what I mean it's just

1:28.9

disturbing it gives me anxiety seeing that this is going on and it's happening to my culture and my race.

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