This is Here Me Out. I'm Celeste Hedley. Who runs the world? And it's not just girls. Is it pop stars, actually? If you've been on social media or watching any cable news, you have probably seen a lot of people explaining

Brat Summer and that Vice President Kamala Harris is having one of those.

You've probably also seen some really intense speculation

about whether Beyoncé allowing the Harris campaign to use her song

Freedom is an endorsement or is it not about if and when Taylor Swift will speak up and

endorse Kamala Harris.

People are always going to talk about celebrities and pop culture moments and memes.

That's kind of the point of the whole thing. But does the future of our democracy

maybe rest in the well manicured hands of pop stars? They are not just a celebrity. They're not just a celebrity.

They're not just a big celebrity supporter of a politician.

They are a movement, a brand, an identity that actually impacts a large group of people.

H.L. and Scott joins hear me out once again in just a moment.

Stay with us.

Hi, I'm Josh Levine. My podcast, The Queen, tells the story of Linda Taylor. She was a

con artist, a kidnapper, and maybe even a murderer.

She was also given the title, The Welfare Queen,

and her story was used by Ronald Reagan

to justify slashing aid to the poor.

Now, it's time to hear her real story.

Over the course of four episodes,

you'll find out what was done to Linda Taylor,

what she did to others, and what was done in her name.

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