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The Rich Roll Podcast

Health is About the Little Things: Rangan Chatterjee, M.D. on How to Feel Better in Five Minutes

The Rich Roll Podcast

Rich Roll

Health & Fitness, Education, Self-improvement, Society & Culture

4.812.9K Ratings

🗓️ 14 September 2020

⏱️ 129 minutes

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Summary

As 2020 continues to unfurl in a fashion beyond surreal, more and more are descending into the anguished abyss of distress. Awakening to acrid tangerine skies that have transformed sunny California into a Blade Runner dystopia, I myself vacillate between melancholia and a commitment to forge a better world. When the darkness descends, I find sanity in focusing only on those things I can control: my actions and reactions. nulltheless, waves of anxiety -- and sometimes even despair -- continue to break on the shores of my consciousness. It is in these moments that I resort to a battery of simple but generally quite effective contrary actions. I spend time in nature. Double down on meditation and human connection. I eat better and move more. And I extend myself in service to others. To further explore the many practical and unexacting things we can all undertake during this stressful time to course-correct our emotional disposition, reframe our reality and sustainably serve our well-being, I'm joined by my friend Rangan Chatterjee, M.D. -- who today returns for a third spin on the RRP flywheel. One of the most influential doctors in the U.K., Rangan is a pioneer in the field of progressive, functional medicine. He is double board-certified in internal medicine and family medicine, holds an honors degree in immunology, and has appeared on seemingly every prominent media outlet from the BBC to The New York Times. In addition, Rangan prevails over the wildly popular Feel Better, Live More podcast. His TEDx talk, How To Make Diseases Disappear, has been viewed almost 3 million times. And he is the author of three #1 Sunday Times bestselling books. The focus of today's conversation is his latest well-being tome, Feel Better In 5. A close cousin to my podcast with Atomic Habits author James Clear (RRP #401), today's exchange is all about habit change and habit formation. It's about the power of bite-sized actions. And how, when undertaken regularly, short and simple practices can rapidly and completely change your health and life. We discuss the difference between breaking bad habits versus crowding them out with new, better habits. We explore the realities of food addiction. Our epidemic of emotional eating. And Rangan's personal theory on cause and solution. We talk generally about holistic health and lifestyle medicine, and why progressive wellness should be accessible to all -- now more than ever. Interspersed throughout, Rangan shares how he has helped patients relieve stress, find fulfillment, and engender peace in these chaotic times. But most importantly, we explore his very simple, almost effortless, methods for building a new and sustainable lifestyle to serve our long-term health. The visually inclined can watch it all go down on YouTube (courtesy of Zoom). And as always, the conversation streams wild and free on Apple Podcasts and Spotify. I always enjoy time spent with Rangan, even when it's remote. My hope is that you do as well -- and put his advice into action. Peace + Plants, Rich Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

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0:00.0

There's a lot of what to do out there, whether it's on podcast or books, there's a lot of,

0:06.0

oh, you should do this. This is what you can do. In fact, we've never lived in a better

0:10.6

time. You know, there's so many options, but potentially with that choice comes paralysis.

0:17.3

And you see a lot of people not actually doing anything. And again, I'm very much informed

0:21.2

by my almost two decades now of seeing patients. Not everyone with the information actually

0:29.0

goes and does anything. I thought, well, why is that? And I've always been fascinated

0:33.4

as to which patients can make change and which patients can't and is there a common factor.

0:40.0

Now, I figured out early on that actually there was a couple of tricks you can use to

0:46.0

help people make change and transform their lives. But I figured out that you've got

0:52.0

to start small with most people. Now, not with everyone, and we can get to that, but with

0:55.9

most people, you've got to start small. And, you know, the actions you take determine

1:01.2

your identity. Often we have a certain identity based upon the way our life is. But until

1:07.8

we take action, consumption is not always leading to action. And, you know, you've always said

1:13.0

mood for those action, right? This is it. This book is actually in many ways trying to prove

1:18.1

your point. Take the action and everything else follows.

1:23.6

That's Dr. Rungan Chatterjee. And this is episode 545 of the Rich Roll Podcast.

1:40.3

The Rich Roll Podcast. Hey, everybody. What's going on? Welcome to the podcast. It is

1:47.2

I, Rich Roll coming to you from the Acred Tangerine skies of what was formerly sunny California,

1:58.8

now turned some kind of blade runner dystopia, our state of blaze in the largest wildfire

2:06.2

season in recorded history. Indeed, as 2020 continues to unfurl, the earth humanity seems

2:13.2

to remain intent on sending all of us deeper into the anguished abyss of distress.

2:24.1

And I myself find that I'm vacillating between this kind of periodic melancholy and a sense

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