Book your ticket to happiness with Sun Express Airlines. This is CBS I in the world. I'm John Dessu with Victor Davis Hanson, professor,

classicist, Stanford University Tuver Institution, the author of The Dying Citizen.

Victor wrote this book, as he says in a footnote,

between 2018 and 2020,

just as the pandemic was striking

and then he updated it as best he could in 21. We know a little, we know a deal more about the pandemic now.

And Victor, you are careful in your epilogue to say, as of 2021, the pandemic set back all of these challenges.

The middle class, the borders certainly,

leaning towards tribalism.

Certainly the unelected were empowered, empowered during the pandemic.

And then we come to the globalization, the changing of the Constitution, the nullifying

of pieces of the Constitution, such as keeping public order in cities during the troubles of the summer of 2020.

I was in New York, if you're right next to Macy's, I saw it, I walked through it. You understand understand the disruption it was the pandemic

that did this yes and then the globalization today after the pandemic we can't

settle we can say Wuhan and we don't have everything but

Victor how did the pandemic set the middle class back? Let's begin there.

Well it had this idea that we were going to give to the unelected based on what the

CDC or the National Institute for Allergy Infectious Diseases

under Anthony Fauchy said was important

or was imperative to save us from this pandemic.

And how that filtered out, John,

was that if you were in my local town and you sold shoes in a mom and pop store or

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