The Birch Show.

I don't know what it is about podcast that seem to end friendships, but I think it's a thing.

Well, radio's been doing it for years, so it's about time podcast.

It's got to catch up.

It's nothing new.

I find that for some odd reason, a lot of people, some I know, some I don't, go into the

podcast world with their friends, and then it just ends up not being a good thing in the end

and I don't know if it's any different than any other business you know you think it's a great

idea so you go into business with your friends and it's a completely different relationship at that

point and you think it's going to be stronger because we know each other, we love each other so much.

But when there's business on the line and different philosophies, man, that's when it goes sideways.

Abby, isn't that what happened with Caller Daddy?

Oh, yeah.

Well, that is what happened with Caller Daddy because they just had two completely different viewpoints on how their business should be run.

And when they encountered like a bunch

of different like hoops they had to jump through in order to get to where they wanted to be

podcast-wise, like one person wanted to go in one direction and the other person went in one

direction. One person has billions of dollars or millions of dollars and the other person

has a podcast that I forget the name of. Yeah. right, right. And, you know, specifically in podcasting, also on what we do as well, you see this a lot,

is that one person thinks that they are contributing more than the other person,

and then you call that other person out.

That starts animosity.

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