He Finds Music Stars. Now He's Helping Us Save the Life of a Wrongfully Convicted Man
Pablo Torre Finds Out
Pablo Torre
4.7 • 2.6K Ratings
🗓️ 17 February 2026
⏱️ 53 minutes
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Summary
He used his instinctual superpower to sign an all-star roster of everyone from Stone Temple Pilots and Katy Perry to, yes, Kid Rock. Now, record executive Jason Flom (with a little help from the spirit of Muhammad Ali) is performing a different kind of miracle, with his obsession to get innocent people out of prison. This is why the unbroken, indomitable grace of Charles Flores is far from alone inside our shocking American system — and how you can help, too.
• Sign the petition to stop the execution of Charles Flores
• Previously on PTFO: We Visited Death Row for the Super Bowl. You Can Help Save This Fan's Life.
• Subscribe to "Wrongful Conviction" with Jason Flom
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| 0:00.0 | Welcome to Pablo Torre finds out. I am Pablo Torre, and today we're going to find out what this sound is. |
| 0:06.7 | If you do get picked up and you're suspected of a crime, just say your name, your address, and they say the following words, I want a lawyer, and then shut the fuck up. |
| 0:18.4 | Right after this ad i have lots of people on this show who have absurd resumes |
| 0:28.4 | you might be a gold medalist in this category wow i'm uh i'm rarely speechless but uh that |
| 0:36.4 | introduction has left me at a loss for words. |
| 0:39.0 | Jason Flom, thank you for being here, by the way. |
| 0:40.6 | Of course. I'm thrilled to be here, actually. |
| 0:42.5 | I'm thrilled to have you hopefully help me understand what it is that you do in your current act. |
| 0:48.2 | But Act 1, can we just start there with music? |
| 0:51.1 | Yeah, of course. |
| 0:52.5 | You're the guy who personally discovered and or signed. |
| 0:55.5 | How should we do the list? |
| 0:57.0 | Do you want to give me the chronology here? |
| 0:59.6 | Yeah, if you want to do it in chronological order, |
| 1:01.8 | it depends how old your listeners are, |
| 1:03.8 | but it goes back to, wow, the 80s. |
| 1:07.6 | The first artist ever signed was a band called Zebra. |
| 1:09.9 | Big points to anyone who remembers them. |
| 1:15.8 | Twisted Sister, Skid Row, Stone Temple Pilots, White Lion, Jewel. |
| 1:26.1 | Jewel. |
| 1:34.7 | We're going way back. |
| 1:36.4 | I'm into a memory machine, Tori Amos. |
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