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Hello Monday with Jessi Hempel

HBR’s Amy Gallo on working with difficult people

Hello Monday with Jessi Hempel

LinkedIn

Careers, Business

4.71.1K Ratings

🗓️ 7 November 2022

⏱️ 31 minutes

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Summary

Need help working with a difficult colleague? From time to time almost everyone does. Maybe we’ve even been one before. (No judgment - we’re only human!) To figure out how to get along with even the most challenging coworkers, Jessi sits down with Amy Gallo. Amy’s an expert in conflict, communication, and workplace dynamics, and the co-host of Harvard Business Review’s hit podcast, Women at Work. Follow Amy Gallo on LinkedIn and check out her podcast and books. Follow Jessi Hempel on LinkedIn and order her debut memoir.  Join the Hello Monday community: Subscribe to the Hello Monday newsletter, and join us on the LinkedIn News page each week for Hello Monday Office Hours, Wednesdays at 3p ET.

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0:00.0

Hi, I'm Ryan Roslansky, the CEO of LinkedIn. Listen to my new podcast, The Path. Discover

0:05.4

how today's greatest leaders shaped their unique career paths and the lessons they learned

0:09.6

along the way. Tune in to new episodes weekly wherever you enjoy your podcasts.

0:15.6

LinkedIn News

0:16.6

From the news team at LinkedIn, I'm Jesse Hempel and this is Hello Monday.

0:25.6

So a bunch of years ago, I had a horrible time with a colleague. We're going to call

0:32.7

him Sam because that is not his name. Sam was so hard to work with. He didn't return

0:38.6

emails. He dropped the ball in commitments. He took credit for other people's work which

0:43.6

I just really think is the worst. Now I loved this job. I really think the job would have

0:49.1

been wonderful. Were it not for Sam? Around that time, I started working with this great

0:55.2

job coach. And of course, the first thing I brought up was Sam. I really wanted her

1:00.4

to help me solve the problem of Sam. But when I walked her through my litany of issues,

1:05.8

she just said, Jesse, there's always a Sam. That phrase has become a mantra to me because

1:13.4

it's pretty much true. Anywhere I've ever worked, there's always a Sam. Our guest today

1:18.9

is Amy Gallo. She's an expert in conflict communication and workplace dynamics. She

1:24.3

hosts Harvard Business Reviews hit podcast Women at Work. She's got a new book called Getting

1:30.4

Along. How to work with anyone, even difficult people. And as soon as Amy entered the studio,

1:36.6

well, I told her all about Sam. Here's Amy. Put very simply, we don't show up at work

1:46.3

as our best selves all the time. And that goes for the Sam's, that goes for us, the

1:51.4

Jesse's and the Amy's. We show up with baggage for lack of a better word, right? Esther

1:58.3

Perrell calls it an emotional resume. And that emotional resume doesn't always align with

2:04.0

the other people's emotional resume. And sometimes there's someone like Sam who lots of people

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