HBM087: Trifle Not with Sacred Things
Here Be Monsters
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🗓️ 7 December 2017
⏱️ 13 minutes
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Summary
It hasn’t been easy for Ashley Fryer to let go of her faith. For thirty years, she dedicated her life to the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints. She grew up attending church multiple times a week, and dutifully studied her scriptures. Over the years, she found inconsistencies in church doctrine, and would pile these up on what she calls ‘the shelf’. She’d pile it higher and higher, thinking, “well, I’ll deal with it later.”
For Ashley, her shelf broke on November 5, 2015. On that day, a new LDS church policy leaked. This policy said, among other things, that children of gay parents could not be baptized unless they were eighteen years old, living on their own, and had renounced same sex marriage. It was a controversial policy that members of the church came out for and against. This ran counter to Ashley’s personal beliefs, and she didn’t believe the leadership of the church spoke for God. So she put down her beloved scriptures, unsure what to do with relics of a religion she no longer believed in.
Since then, Ashley has been on a journey of spiritual discovery. She started exploring Wiccan practices, paganism, and her Norse heritage. She found that Hel, the Norse goddess of the underworld, resonated with her. Half beautiful maiden, half rotting corpse, Hel is the keeper of dead things. To Ashley, Hel represents a spirit of radical self acceptance, and new beginnings rising from the ashes. Ashley realized that she knew what to do with her LDS scriptures.
This episode was produced and edited by Ashley’s little sister, Bethany Denton. Additional editing help from Jeff Emtman and Nick White.
Music: The Black Spot
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| 0:00.0 | From KCRW, this is Here Be Monsters. |
| 0:05.0 | I think that leaving the church is harder for my sister than it was for me. |
| 0:17.0 | I've forgotten what it feels like to have faith. It was so long ago. |
| 0:24.4 | I left the church when I was a senior in high school, just as I was getting ready to move out and go to college. |
| 0:30.0 | I just didn't believe the Book of Mormon was based in fact, and I was already leaving home so it felt natural to leave the church too. |
| 0:33.0 | But it's different for my sister Ashley. |
| 0:35.0 | She's five years older than me, and when I became secular, |
| 0:39.0 | she was getting married in the temple. |
| 0:41.0 | She held leadership roles in her congregation. |
| 0:44.8 | She quit her job to become a full-time homemaker, |
| 0:47.3 | per the church's recommendation. |
| 0:50.0 | She turned 30, and She became a mother. |
| 0:58.5 | Ashley was entrenched in the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints. |
| 1:01.8 | And so that's why I say it was different for her. And when Ashley struggled with her faith, |
| 1:04.0 | she gave even more of herself to the church. |
| 1:06.6 | She looked for answers to hard questions. |
| 1:08.7 | A couple weeks, if that's what I want to do with them. |
| 1:12.6 | Why did you leave the church? |
| 1:17.8 | In the post- Mormon community, we have a phrase |
| 1:20.6 | about the shelf that you |
| 1:23.1 | your membership in the church there's certain things that don't feel right |
| 1:26.9 | or don't make sense or that you just don't like and so you put them on the |
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