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Here Be Monsters

HBM085: Ascended Fiction

Here Be Monsters

Here Be Monsters Podcast

Society & Culture, Documentary, Science, Personal Journals, Social Sciences

4.6 • 1.3K Ratings

🗓️ 22 November 2017

⏱️ 34 minutes

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Summary

There’s an office in every church of Scientology dedicated to the founder.  It’s a full reconstruction: desks, chairs, books and memorabilia.  The church says these offices are traditional, a way of honoring the memory of L. Ron Hubbard, who died back in 1986.  

L. Ron Hubbard’s office in Copenhagen, Denmark sits on a busy street.  There’s a big window that allows passersby to speculate on its utility.  

Elisabeth Pedersen heard a rumor that the office was more than traditional.  She heard that it might be needed by the author upon his alleged reincarnation and return to earth.  

Sussing out the veracity of this claim is difficult, because Hubbard and his successor David Miscavige choose to keep much of Scientology’s scripture out of the public’s reach.  And therefore, many of the Church of Scientology’s core beliefs must be sifted either through church officials, court documents, or the religion's detractors.

One of those detractors is Tony Ortega, who’s been writing on Scientology since the 1990’s. He thinks Elisabeth’s rumor is a garbled understanding of a belief that might be held in an secretive wing of Scientology known as the Church of Spiritual Technology.  The CST is the group that holds and protects the copyrights to Hubbard’s body of work.  Tony says a defector from the CST told him about preparations being made for the return of L. Ron Hubbard.  His source later denied this.  

When a religion has scriptural gatekeepers, how can you know if a rumor’s been debunked?  A friendly person at the church’s info center pointed out that the internet is full of misinformation about scientology and suggested that listeners of this podcast consult Scientologists Taking Action Against Discrimination for factual information about the religion and its beliefs.  They also suggested Freedom Magazine.  Scientology’s press officers were contacted several times in the months before release, but never responded.

Jeff Emtman produced this episode with help from Bethany Denton.  This episode’s title was inspired by TV Trope’s article on Ascended Fanfic.

Music: Serocell, The Black Spot 

Transcript

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0:00.0

From KCRW, this is Here Be Monsters.

0:10.0

From KCRW, this is Here Be Monsters. It was 1986.

0:30.0

1986, a man in a suit walked onto the stage of a large theater. He had big news for the thousands assembled. There'd been a death.

0:35.0

The man in the suit was a clean-shaven 25-year-old. He carried pages of notes in his hand and he set those

0:45.4

notes on the lectern and started talking.

0:47.8

Thank you.

0:50.8

Thank you. Thank you.

0:56.0

Hello?

0:57.0

My name is David Miss Gavidge.

1:00.0

And I'm very happy that you could all make it to this important briefing this evening

1:07.5

Okay, how about now?

1:09.9

I've always known that we as humans have strange ways of talking about death.

1:14.1

I've heard people refer to it as moving on or passing away or going to a better place.

1:19.5

But the man in the suit used other terms to talk about death, ones I've never heard before.

1:24.4

And I don't know, I think the terms were new to a lot of people in that audience too.

1:29.0

The microphones in the theater picked up their reactions, and I can't quite tell what I hear in their voices,

1:34.0

whether it's surprise or grief or joy or something else entirely.

1:40.0

He has now moved on to his next

1:42.0

on to his level ote level of ote research. This level is beyond anything any one of us ever

1:48.2

imagined. This level is in fact done in an exterior state, meaning that it is done completely exterior from the body.

2:00.0

At this level of OT, the body is nothing more than an impediment and encumbrance to any further gain as an OT.

2:09.0

Thus, Thus at 2,000 hours Friday, the 24th of January, AD 36, El-Rod Hubbard discarded the body. He had used in this lifetime for 74

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