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Welcome back to the Minicom Show featuring Lenny.

Only NFL podcast, one of the hosts, thinks a swim move, doesn't mean you doggy paddle,

that's Lenny.

Minicom's, I'm joined, today, my first time guest, and probably, I was like, that Doug's

had to have been on my podcast, I don't think you've ever been on my podcast, Doug

for our, I would have remembered, but no, it's great honor to be here, and I'm excited

to talk about half of the NFC West.

You can, we're going to talk about the whole NFC West, the NFC West, we're going to do it.

So Cardinals fans do not despair, I actually think the Cardinals are really interesting,

but you kind of have to discuss some more of the concept than team right now, when I was

thinking through it, the more I thought through it, and the Rams to a lesser, maybe more

confusing extent, the more I did actually want to talk to you about it, because I think

they're at such a unique juncture, they have so many strange decisions and interesting

choices to make, they are a team for whom the parameters of success are very different

from the San Francisco 49ers in Seattle, Seahawks, the Rams are, that is another one we got

to puzzle out.

I should say, Doug, you got, for you guys who haven't read Doug's work, he is editor of

Touchdown Wire, does fantastic stuff, he also has a great new-ish podcast with Greg Csell,

great new-ish, yeah.

About three months, we're enjoying, Greg is, you know, Greg from NFL Films, Newspins, NFL

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