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Getting Better with Jonathan Van Ness

Have We Lost the Capacity To Be Civil? with Sally Kohn

Getting Better with Jonathan Van Ness

Sony Music

Society & Culture, Comedy, Education, Self-improvement

4.9 • 21.6K Ratings

🗓️ 6 February 2019

⏱️ 46 minutes

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Summary

Sally Kohn is a liberal political commentator, writer, community organizer, as well as a contributor to Fox News and CNN. She joins Jonathan to discuss her time being a liberal commentator on Fox News, the current political landscape, interacting with those with opposing political views, past presidential scandals and more. Find Sally Kohn’s website and her new book, The Opposite of Hate, here http://www.sallykohn.com. Sally is on Instragram and Twitter @sallykohn. Find out what today’s guest and former guests are up to by following us on Instagram and Twitter @CuriousWithJVN. Transcripts for each episode are available at JonathanVanNess.com. Check out Getting Curious merch at PodSwag.com. Listen to more music from Quiñ by heading over to TheQuinCat.com. Jonathan is on Instagram and Twitter @JVN and @Jonathan.Vanness on Facebook. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Transcript

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0:00.0

Welcome to Getting Curious. I'm Jonathan Vaness and every week I sit down for a 30-minute conversation

0:09.3

or very probably going to be longer because honey I can't keep time. With a brilliant expert to

0:14.7

learn all about something that makes me curious and that honestly I could probably know way more

0:19.2

about and speak more eloquently on. This week I'm asking, have we lost the capacity to be civil?

0:25.2

Comment, how do I not lose my marbles when I'm dealing with someone who I just fundamentally disagree with on

0:30.6

a very many subjects? So I'm joined in studio by one of America's leading progressive voices, Sally

0:36.1

Cone. Who by the way was a commentator on Fox so she really knows what she's talking about.

0:46.9

Welcome to Getting Curious. This is Jonathan Vaness. I'm really really excited.

0:51.2

Today's episode is going to be really really fun. I have someone who is very gene, very charismatic,

0:58.9

very smart, very organized. You've had a very really amazing career. You've done a lot of really

1:05.4

good work. I just learned a Rwanda piece of it which is gorgeous. I feel like I missed that

1:09.6

TED talk because I saw the other ones but I must have missed the one that you did about Rwanda

1:14.0

because I didn't even know. So that any further ado is one of my favorite old teachers. Well,

1:18.0

she's not old but one of my favorite teachers would have said without further ado, welcome,

1:21.8

Sally Cone. Thank you. I'm so excited to be here. Me to you. So where should we start your gorgeous

1:28.3

story? Do you want to start at the beginning? Tell me everything. My initial question is,

1:35.2

how do I handle Twitter trolls, internet people who I just do not fundamentally agree with?

1:44.1

How do I reach into their hearts? How do I change minds through hearts for a concerned citizen

1:49.9

as you know, for the future of our country? Second, who are you? Who is you?

1:57.3

Requiring minds when I tell you. Well, I feel like you are, I feel like you're kind of doing

2:01.3

things that lend itself to my question. So you reach, you are someone who has to reach across.

2:09.8

You like me have to like deal with people's preconceived notions about like, so how do you do it?

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