Have Trump's tariff dreams been shattered?
Americast
BBC
4.2 • 2.8K Ratings
🗓️ 29 May 2025
⏱️ 27 minutes
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Summary
It’s been a chaotic day in the United States.
This morning, we heard the news that a court in the US has blocked Donald Trump’s tariffs.
Later this evening, we found out that Trump's tariff plan was temporarily reinstated while a court considers a White House appeal.
In between that, we recorded an episode, exploring what all this could mean for the global trade war, Trump’s relationship with the courts, and what seems to be the final moments of Elon Musk’s and Trump’s courtship - as the tech mogul steps away from DOGE.
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| 0:00.0 | It has been quite a day. |
| 0:06.8 | We sat down at about half-past five in the afternoon on Thursday to record an episode on the US court ruling which blocked many of Donald Trump's tariffs on countries around the world. |
| 0:16.5 | It's now about 9pm in the evening and we've got word that an appeals court have given the White House a temporary reprieve and reinstated the tariffs while it considers the case. |
| 0:26.2 | Despite the uncertainty, we think a lot of what we said still stands. |
| 0:30.0 | We chatted about how the court decision could affect trade negotiations around the world and how damaging the decision is for Donald Trump's image, both at home and abroad. |
| 0:38.7 | So, without further ado, welcome to AmeriCast. |
| 0:44.7 | AmeriCast from BBC News. |
| 0:47.8 | You're gambling with the lives of millions of people. |
| 0:50.6 | You're gambling with World War III. |
| 0:52.9 | President Trump's message is very simple. We are done |
| 0:55.4 | being taken advantage of. Mr. President, in the name of our God, have mercy upon the people. |
| 1:01.1 | We're scared now. Are you supportive of these onesies? I'm supportive of vaccines. |
| 1:05.8 | What is happening? Like, this is not America. This is a terrible nightmare. This is what victory feels like. |
| 1:13.7 | Yeah. |
| 1:23.7 | Hello, it's Anthony in the BBC Bureau in Washington, D.C. |
| 1:28.7 | It's Justin at home with my dog in South London. |
| 1:31.9 | And it's Mariana, aka Misinformation, in the worldwide headquarters of AmeriCost in London. |
| 1:37.1 | Right, we're recording this at about half five in the afternoon in the UK and on Thursday. |
| 1:43.9 | And it's important, of course, because all of this is moving very fast. |
| 1:47.1 | But I'm going to start with something that we regularly do that I think is a kind of feature |
| 1:51.4 | of Ameriast now for years. |
| 1:53.3 | And that is Anthony's ability to answer any question that you ask him. |
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