Hey Jim.

Hey, hey Catherine.

You sound chipper today.

I'm glad to be talking to you.

I missed you. You.

Probably you didn't miss me?

Well, maybe we should say a little more.

I feel like we didn't totally talk enough about what we're up to. So we're trying this week we're trying a new thing which is talking three days week, Monday, Wednesday, Friday. For the record, Jim doesn't want to do that.

Nor do our listeners.

Jim would talk every day.

But I will say that I think now that we've realized that we're going into, that this is not ending anytime soon.

This whole situation and I want to make sure we do this in a sustainable way in a way

that is actually providing meaningful conversation and not just me wallowing further

into sort of circular sadness. So I don't think that's good for anybody and I just not good for you either

Jim. No we get it. People get tired to me. I am I am a lot. That is definitely true. We should say that anyone who's listening feel free to

write us at social distance at the Atlantic.com and let us know if three days a week like renders us useless to you.

Well, we're we're playing things by year right now, right? That's what I understand.

Yes, totally.

Okay, what are we talking about today?

This is, we're talking about one of your sort of pet interests I would say.

Yeah. You want to talk about advanced directives today?

I think so. Not really fun topic, but it's something that everybody needs to think about.

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