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🗓️ 19 June 2025
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When exactly China’s emissions peak will make a big difference to the fate of the planet. That moment has come, according to Lauri Myllyvirta, co-founder of the Centre for Research on Energy and Clean Air. A combination of factors – including a huge deployment of renewables and electrification of transport – has put China’s emissions into a structural decline. This week on Zero, Akshat Rathi asks Myllyvirta how confident he is that this really is a peak? What’s behind the decline in emissions? And how will the trade war with the US affect China’s climate and energy policies in the years to come?
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| 0:00.0 | This is an IHeart podcast. |
| 0:05.6 | Welcome to Zero. I'm Akshadrati. |
| 0:08.2 | This week, have China's emissions peaked? |
| 0:28.0 | Everything about China tends to be big, including its planet heating impact. |
| 0:34.1 | China is, after all, the world's largest consumer of coal and produces nearly a third of global carbon dioxide emissions. |
| 0:36.1 | And that's why what China does makes a big difference |
| 0:39.1 | to the world's climate trajectory, even more so than what the US does. In recent years, China's |
| 0:46.7 | actions have tended more towards clean energy than fossil fuels. It deploys more solar power |
| 0:52.0 | than the rest of the world combined, and about half of all new cars sold in the country are electric. |
| 0:58.0 | But the conversation about China tends to miss a lot of nuance. |
| 1:02.5 | With the US under President Donald Trump taking big steps to reverse climate policies, |
| 1:08.2 | it's even more important to understand what China is doing. |
| 1:12.0 | That's why this week we're speaking to Lauri Mulewirta, co-founder of the Center for Research on Energy |
| 1:17.8 | and Clean Air, and one of the foremost experts on all things climate and energy in China. |
| 1:23.9 | He recently published an analysis for Carbon Brave that says China's emissions have peaked. |
| 1:30.1 | And they're going into reverse, not because of a financial crisis or the pandemic, but because there are structural reasons for it. |
| 1:39.2 | And it's the kind of good news on the climate front that has become rare these days. |
| 1:44.5 | Calling the peak is not easy, whether that's oil consumption or CO2 emissions. |
| 1:50.0 | Often, you can only be sure years after the peak has passed. |
| 1:54.0 | So how confident is Lowry that this really is the peak? |
| 1:57.9 | What's behind it? |
| 1:59.3 | And how will the trade war affect China's climate and energy |
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