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Syntax - Tasty Web Development Treats

Hasty Treat - The Status of Element Queries / Container Queries

Syntax - Tasty Web Development Treats

Wes Bos

Js, Technology, Css, Html5, Tech News, Webdevelopment, News, Javascript, Html

4.91.1K Ratings

🗓️ 2 March 2020

⏱️ 24 minutes

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Summary

In this Hasty Treat, Scott and Wes talk about container queries, what they are and how you can use them.

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Show Notes

4:30 - The General Idea

6:20 - Problems

  • It’s not as easy as, “how do we write them”
  • Some of the requirements may need a fundamental change to browser engines
    • May be very impractical and take a long time

“Did you know, for example, that there are multiple many year long efforts with huge investments underway already aimed at unlocking many new things in CSS? There are - and I don’t mean Houdini!” ~ Brian Kardell

8:56 - What’s been happening?

  • Lots of conversations
  • Dead ends

“How do we make this into more solvable problems?” and “How do we actually make some progress, mitigate risk - take a step, and and actually get something to developers?” ~ Brian Kardell

12:00 - Progress

  • Lot’s of discussion
    • Goog, Moz, Apple, smart people
  • Not there yet
  • Big ideas that could go somewhere

.foo { display: grid; grid-template-columns: switch( (available-inline-size > 1024px) 1fr 4fr 1fr; (available-inline-size > 400px) 2fr 1fr; (available-inline-size > 100px) 1fr; default 1fr; ); }

“A whole lot of the problems with existing ideas is that they heave to loop back through (expensive) phases potentially several times and make it (seemingly) impossible to keep CSS rendering in the same frame.” ~ Brian Kardell

  • Or a system based on resizeObserver

“In the coming months I hope to continue to think about, explore this space and continue discussions with others. I would love to publish some research and maybe some new (functional) experiments with JS that aim to be ‘closer’ to a path that might be paveable.” ~ Brian Kardell

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Monday, Monday, Monday,

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Open wide Dev fans.

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Get ready to stuff your face

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with JavaScript, CSS, node modules, barbecue tips,

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the hastiest, the craziest, the craziest development the hastiest the craziest the tastiest web development treats coming in hot here is

0:18.1

Wes Barracuda bars and Scott El Toroloco, Tolinsky.

0:25.0

Welcome to Sentaxin this Monday.

0:30.0

Hastie Treat, we're going to be talking all about container queries element

0:34.4

queries well we'll talk a little bit about what the heck they are and why they

0:38.7

might be useful what the current status of them and why it's not as easy of a problem as we would all like it to be.

0:46.0

My name is Scott Tlensky. I'm a developer from Denver, Colorado and with me as always is the West Boss.

0:53.0

Sup everybody.

0:54.0

S-up-sub-s-sup-sup, Wes.

0:57.0

Not too much.

0:58.0

I'm just excited to learn about element queries.

1:00.0

We've complained about this enough on the show like,

1:02.0

where is element queries?

1:04.1

Yeah. And then this blog post came out sort of detailing it.

1:07.5

It made me feel bad for complaining. Yeah, I think that happens often in web development.

1:12.1

You don't necessarily know what's going on.

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