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Has Trump already handed Putin victory?

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🗓️ 19 August 2025

⏱️ 33 minutes

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Summary

Zelensky landed in Washington DC, accompanied by European leaders, to try and stem the fallout from the Alaska summit between Donald Trump and Vladimir Putin. Will Ukraine be forced to cede territory to secure peace? And how is that going down in Kyiv?

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Guests:

  • Professor Mark Galeotti, Historian, Times Contributor, Director of Mayak Intelligence and Author of We Need to Talk about Putin.
  • Anthony Loyd, Special Correspondent, The Times.

Host: Manveen Rana.

Producers: Taryn Siegel and Edith Rousselot.

Read more: The ball is in Zelensky’s court but he is in an impossible position

Clips: Fox News, Bloomberg TV, Associated Press, The Guardian.

Photo: Getty Images.

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0:00.0

From The Times and the Sunday Times, this is the story.

0:05.8

I'm Manvine Rana.

0:09.8

It was the diplomatic equivalent of a Marvel movie.

0:13.5

Ready to get doors, pretty pop, pretty open.

0:19.9

Mr. Prime Minister. I'd like to see it again.

0:21.6

Mr. Secretary is very gentle.

0:28.6

Is it okay?

0:33.6

The leaders of the biggest powers in Europe all descending on Washington to help President Zelensky take on Russia and the White House.

0:43.3

I'm not the president.

0:45.3

I didn't see you against.

0:47.3

Finland is next.

0:50.3

Do they have a photographer?

0:51.3

There was no doubt this was an exercise in damage limitation.

0:58.0

After Friday summit in Alaska left many of those watching scratching their heads.

1:04.0

I think we're all awaiting, you know, the readout because the way that it felt in the room was not good.

1:12.6

After the summit, both Putin and Trump insisted that ending the war was now down to Zelensky.

1:19.6

But discussions seem heavily weighted against him.

1:23.6

When you talk to Vladimir Solensky, what's your advice to make a deal?

1:28.3

Make the deal.

1:29.3

Gotta make a deal, yeah.

1:31.3

Look, Russia's a very big power, and they're not.

1:35.3

Meanwhile, in Ukraine, the stakes couldn't be higher.

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