Welcome to Talking Fence, a round table that brings together prominent former federal

officials for a dynamic discussion of the most important legal topics of the day.

We're turning to a topic today that is both eternally relevant but also at the height

of current events, namely the impeachment trial.

As a topic I've wanted to explore for many months as the writing on the wall has gotten

increasingly distinct that President Trump will not be removed from office, not with standing,

at least as it seems to me, an overwhelming factual case of pernicious abuse of power

and obstruction of Congress.

And so the question is, why not?

We have in the Constitution or it's thought that we have this sort of, if fire, break glass,

remedy for just such singular abuse of power, but that design apparently is not up to the

task at hand.

Is it because of some original flaw, some changes in the law, changes in social conditions,

in a word, has the presidency grown too powerful for the Constitution.

I'm Harry Littman.

I'm a former United States Attorney and Deputy Assistant Attorney General and a current

Washington Post columnist.

And with me live in New York City today is an ideal group of expert scholars with deep

experience in government and the Constitution to discuss this vexing question.

First Bob Bauer returns for the third time to talking feds.

As our listeners all know, Bob served as White House Council, the president Obama.

After having been the premier, I think without doubt, election law attorney in the country,

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