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The Michael Steele Podcast

Has Groupthink Has Made Us Fall Out of Touch with Reality?

The Michael Steele Podcast

The Bulwark

Politics, Government, History, News

4.83.1K Ratings

🗓️ 8 February 2025

⏱️ 21 minutes

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Summary

Michael Steele is joined by Dr. Cornel West and Dr. Robert George, two friends on opposite sides of the political spectrum who met while teaching at Princeton University. They discuss abandoning tribalism and groupthink in order to seek the truth.

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Transcript

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0:31.8

may disagree politically, but as you said, Cornell, is that deeper human element that allows that disagreement not to be so personal and so toxic that as we would joke about Thanksgiving during the Trump era, people just, they stop seeing grandma.

0:53.4

I'm not going to Grandma's house because she supports Trump and I can't deal with that.

0:57.6

Or I'm not going to, you know, hang out with cousin Joe because he's a Biden guy and I just,

1:03.3

I can't deal with that.

1:05.1

What is it that we've lost when you think about that inquiry and deliberation that Aristotle referred to, that has now disabled

1:18.1

our ability to communicate with each other.

1:20.6

Well, if I say a few words about that and then turn it over to Cornell.

1:26.6

Sure.

1:29.3

Our disagreements are obvious.

1:32.3

Cornell's honorary chairman of Democratic Socialists of America, and I'm not honorary

1:37.3

democracy.

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