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The Food Programme

Has Finland Found the Future of Food?

The Food Programme

BBC

Arts, Food

4.4943 Ratings

🗓️ 5 July 2024

⏱️ 43 minutes

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Summary

Saunas, pickled food.. even Nokia phones. But do you associate Finland with the future of food? Sheila Dillon visits the new factory making microbial protein out of hydrogen, oxygen and various minerals. Solar Foods, in Finland, is the latest frontier in the commercial lab-grown food sector; their invention, Solein, is a novel food ingredient that can replace animal products like milk, eggs and meat. Rather than using animal cells as a starting point, their process uses electrolysis to separate water into oxygen and hydrogen, followed by machinery usually found in the dairy industry to dry and then pasteurise the resulting protein powder. After a tour of this futuristic factory, Sheila sits down for lunch cooked by Solar Foods’ head chef to find out how this so-called ‘food of the future’ actually tastes.

Lab-grown meat has been touted as the future for many years, but it has yet to take off – in fact, companies in this space are struggling. Changes to global politics as well as the high cost of scaling up have all limited the sector's growth so far. Meanwhile, it's still not clear if people want lab-grown meat as part of their lives or diets. Sheila hears from Dutch biology and ethics professor, Cor van der Weele, who found that people were more interested in small-scale production of lab-grown meat, in containers alongside animals on farms, rather than scaled up mega factories.

So how does lab-grown meat fit into our future food system? Is it really the best way to reduce the environmental impact of our diets? And how might it help us when climate change or wars make global trade too difficult? Sheila asks professor Tim Benton, of think tank Chatham House, for his views on all the big questions.

Produced by Nina Pullman for BBC Audio in Bristol.

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Before you listen to this BBC podcast, I'd like to quickly tell you about some others.

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My name's Andy Martin and I'm the editor of a team of podcast producers at the BBC in Northern Ireland.

0:11.0

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0:16.1

but which also resonate and apply to listeners around the world.

0:19.5

And because the team is such a diverse range of skills and strengths.

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0:26.6

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0:29.0

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0:31.6

So if you like this podcast, head to BBC Sounds where you'll find

0:35.0

plenty more fascinating stories from all around the UK.

0:40.1

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0:43.6

Welcome to the Food Program.

0:45.1

I'm Sheila Dylan, and today we're asking some questions

0:49.7

about the future of food. Can it all be lab grown? Can a significant part of it be

0:57.6

lab grown? Have a listen. We're in the center of Helsinki,

1:05.0

standing by the main railways.

1:11.0

We're in the center of Helsinki, wonderful Helsinki, standing by the main railway station which is this

1:16.2

Art Deco monument with a certain Finnish massiveness designed by the architect Sarinen, which is a reminder of how long Finland

1:29.0

has been a leading light in design and architecture, but it's also been a technological powerhouse.

1:39.0

You know, early mobile phones, the margarine that brought down your cholesterol, and we're going to down,

1:50.3

we're setting off on a train to a factory which is making for microbes an

1:56.1

alternative protein. Is this going to change the face of food? Is it any good? What

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