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Coffee House Shots

Has Boris Johnson's optimism backfired?

Coffee House Shots

The Spectator

News, Politics, Government, Daily News

4.42.1K Ratings

🗓️ 1 December 2020

⏱️ 11 minutes

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Summary

The government looks set to win today's Commons vote on the return of the tiers system for England, but tens of Tory backbenchers are unhappy. For them, the Prime Minister's reassurances have lost credibility, so on today's podcast, Isabel Hardman discusses with Katy Balls and James Forsyth whether or not Boris's optimism has backfired.

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0:00.0

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0:24.8

Hello and welcome to Coffeehouse Shots, the Spectator's Daily Politics Podcast.

0:29.9

I'm Isabel Hardman and I'm joined by James Forsyth and Katie Balls.

0:34.5

Well, the debate on the regulations enabling the new tiered system is underway in the House of Commons this afternoon.

0:41.4

Boris Johnson gave a speech trying to persuade his own MPs to back the measures, which we know are going to pass because Labour has said they will abstain.

0:51.2

Katie, just tell us a little bit about what the Prime Minister did to try to at least

0:55.9

quail the rebellion from his own MPs. So we've seen various tactics from number 10,

1:02.2

the Prime Minister. You have the speech today opening the debate, but I think it's been a longer

1:07.5

lens approach if you go a bit further back. You had a situation where when the tier system was first introduced,

1:14.9

you had good news put out so the idea, you know,

1:17.6

well, gyms will stay open no matter what tier.

1:19.6

And you can see them trying to bank that.

1:21.6

But in a way, I think there's been a realisation in recent days

1:24.1

that by doing the good news first, took the win and then they found out

1:30.0

what area their tier was in they wanted a lot more in the way of concessions so the prime minister is

1:35.0

trying to adopt a tone being quite consideratory to his colleagues and saying he will listen you

1:39.8

also have the Michael gove article however from the weekend which i think put the backs up of several

1:43.8

Tory MPs and then i think if you move in in terms of, you know, what is being offered, we have a

1:49.4

situation where they're saying, you know, if you vote for the tears today, it's not going to be

1:54.0

all the way up until the spring. We are going to bring in other votes. So you'll get another one

1:58.8

in the new year in terms of you that's moving into February. So, and I think the question is, is that enough? And we've also had the

2:05.2

publication of the impact assessments, which was supposed to be another bit of saying, you know,

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