I'm Krista Tippet, today, beyond the atheism religion divide.

Harvard professor Harvey Cox was the best-selling voice of secularism in America in the 1960s.

He's watched the rise of what some call the new atheism of figures like Christopher Hitchens

and Richard Dawkins with a sense of deja vu.

And he says that either or debates obscure the fascinating conversation between faith and

other forms of knowledge that is unfolding in our time, from education to science,

from economics to medicine.

We have issues coming up in virtually every field that exceed the limits of that particular

discipline and need other disciplines to help illuminate the question and especially

need ethics and moral reasoning and religion philosophy in the mix not giving the answers

but part of the conversation.

This is speaking of faith, stay with us.

I'm Krista Tippet.

Must we see atheism and religion as enemies?

This hour we explore another way forward.

My guest, Harvard professor Harvey Cox, has had a sense of deja vu as he's watched

the rise of what some call the new atheism of figures like Richard Dawkins and Christopher

Hitchens.

Harvey Cox was the best-selling voice of secularism in America in the 1960s.

But he says that eras embrace of secularism led for example to a faith in the omnipotence

of the market.

And the real story of our time as he sees it is a new conversation between religious and

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