Harry and Meghan. (And Why Their Saga Matters.)

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🗓️ 23 January 2020

⏱️ 29 minutes

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In a moment of national insecurity, with the future of the United Kingdom seemingly hanging in the balance, a new royal couple offered the vision of a unified, progressive future. But the same forces that pushed for Britain to leave the European Union have now pushed Harry and Meghan, the Duke and Duchess of Sussex, to leave the country. Guest: Mark Landler, the London bureau chief of The New York Times. For more information on today’s episode, visit nytimes.com/thedaily. Background reading: A wish to carve out more “progressive” roles has led to the loss of perks, privileges and titles — a more thorough break than the Duke and Duchess of Sussex seem to have expected.The couple’s push for greater independence has resurfaced the same questions that animated the Brexit debate.Black Britons expressed support for Harry and Meghan. “Thank God they are free,” one Londoner said. “All of this is about her race. I know it because as a Caribbean woman who did not grow up here, I have experienced it myself.”

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0:26.0	From the New York Times, I'm Michael Bavaro.
0:32.7	This is the Daily.
0:40.2	Today.
0:43.2	Why the story of Harry and Meghan matters?
0:54.1	It's Thursday.
0:55.7	January 23rd.
1:01.1	Okay.
1:02.1	Mark Landler.
1:03.1	Looking at the headlines and your by-line, I've been wondering how it's been for you over
1:08.2	these last few weeks to go from the Brexit beat to the Brexit beat.
1:16.4	Well I guess the first reaction I had was that it's kind of interesting that after 27
1:21.2	years of this newspaper, I've risen up to the exalted position of being a gossip reporter.
1:26.9	Mark Landler is the London bureau chief for the Times.
1:31.0	But as I dug into it more and more, I realized that for all the soap off equality to Harry
1:36.6	and Meghan, the story actually does have a deeper dimension and a deeper context.
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