HARD PROBLEMS: Ransomware, Sandboxes and Security
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🗓️ 30 May 2021
⏱️ 68 minutes
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| 0:00.0 | You're listening to Hard Problems with Bram Cohen, brought to you by the Coin Desk Podcast Network. |
| 0:06.0 | This episode is sponsored by nexo.io and bitstamp.com. On today's show, BitTorn Adventure and Chia CEO, |
| 0:12.4 | Bram Cohen is talking about ransomware and computer security with American hacker Jeffrey Paul, |
| 0:17.1 | also known as Sneak. This episode was recorded live and features questions from our |
| 0:20.9 | Clubhouse audience. Our next live recording zooms in on music and music theory with Grammy-nominated |
| 0:26.2 | composer and musical pioneer BT on Wednesday, June 3rd. If you'd like to sit in, you'll |
| 0:32.1 | find an invitation to join Clubhouse in the show notes for this episode. But today, it's about |
| 0:36.3 | ransomware. And now, here's |
| 0:38.6 | Bram Cohen. There's this thing about computer security in general. I am not a computer security |
| 0:46.1 | person, very intentionally so, mostly because at a high level, how it's handled just kind of makes me sick. |
| 0:55.4 | That back in the day, meaning like 20 years ago, people just sort of took it for granted. |
| 1:00.9 | Like it was a law of nature that you couldn't possibly have a sandbox work, right? |
| 1:05.7 | Like that it just couldn't be done. |
| 1:07.2 | Oh, of course you have critical security bugs. |
| 1:10.7 | That's something you can't possibly stop. |
| 1:13.4 | There's no point in even trying. It was just like this gospel. And it just drove me mad. |
| 1:20.7 | It was just ridiculous. And so many of the basic steps to even start getting there. We're just so stupid. A sandbox is |
| 1:31.4 | when you have some untrusted piece of code that you're going to be writing, and so you put |
| 1:37.8 | limitations on what it can do. There is a sandbox of things that it is capable of doing, and you are limiting it to only doing those things. |
| 1:47.4 | Like a watertight compartment. |
| 1:49.3 | Yeah, kind of like in software, |
| 1:51.1 | we kind of assume that almost everything that we're doing |
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