Hey, welcome to the Happy Grant podcast. I am Ted Cluck. They are Ronald J. Martin and Barnabas Piper. And boys, we've got a fun one on tap today but before we get into all

the fun pipe you have to take care of some business man because again it is it is

raining sponsors on this program so why do you tell us about a couple of books?

It is raining sponsors one of them is the same sponsor we had last week who is

Tyndale House Publishers and Nav Press they're sort of a they're a publishing conglomerate.

I think that's the technical term.

Actually, what that really means is Tindale bailed Nav Press out when they were really

struggling.

But that's a little behind the scenes business in the publishing world.

Dude, if we ever become the Happy Rand and reformed pub cast, then we'll know that it's time to get out of the business.

And this is the point, this is the point at which I need to sign off Big T because that will never

ever happen.

That can never happen, man.

That can never happen.

We are a conglomerate.

We don't combine.

That's right. We don't have to join forces with other people. We are who we are, right?

We buy and sell other podcasts.

Here we stand and we can do no other to quote the great Martin Luther.

And to keep us a little reform

keep us on the reform we will out reform the reformed guys we actually do out

reform the reform guys because at the end of the day we're probably more Luther

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