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I'm Andrea Gunning, host of the podcast Betrayal.

Police Lieutenant Joel Kern used his badge to fool everyone.

Most of all, his wife, Caroline.

He texted, I've ruined our lives.

You're going to want to divorce me.

How far would he go to cover up what he'd done?

The fact that you lied is absolutely horrific. And quite frankly, I question how many other

women are out there that may bring forward allegations in the future.

Listen to betrayal on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.

This week on Dear Chelsea with me, Chelsea Handler, Jay Shetty joins us.

The people who need the most love often ask for it in the most unloving ways.

So when I see someone's behavior, the first thing I try and think of

is how is that a plea for love? Whatever behavior you see from someone, it's them asking for love

in some way. And I think we see it in children the most where when a child's throwing a tantrum,

they're simply asking for presence, love, and connection.

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We love learning about this extraordinary universe. And we love sharing what we've learned.

And on our podcast, Daniel and Kelly's extraordinary universe, that's what we're going to do.

I'm Daniel. I'm a particle physicist, and I think our universe is absolutely extraordinary. I'm Kelly Weiner-Smith. I study parasites,

and there's just endless things about this universe that I find fascinating. Basically, we're both

nerds. Each Tuesday and Thursday, we take an hour-long dive into some science topic. Learn all about

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