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Unbelievable?

Happiness, humanity, ethics, evolution... what really is the meaning of life? Sam McKee vs Stephen Law hosted by Andy Kind

Unbelievable?

Premier Unbelievable?

Christianity, Religion & Spirituality

4.6 • 2.3K Ratings

🗓️ 13 November 2025

⏱️ 58 minutes

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Summary

Can we really know whether God exists... or is belief just a product of evolution and psychology? In this powerful Unbelievable? debate filmed at a UK school, Andy Kind hosts philosopher and atheist Dr Stephen Law and Christian biologist Sam McKee for a fascinating and heartfelt conversation about belief, meaning, and the human search for truth. From the problem of evil and the evolution of belief to personal experience and purpose, this episode moves from science to soul — asking whether faith is a delusion or our deepest intuition. 👉 Subscribe for more thought-provoking debates on faith, reason, and culture: https://www.unbelievable.show SOCIAL LINKS Twitter: https://twitter.com/unbelievablefe Facebook: / https://facebook.com/premierunbelievable Instagram: / https://instagram.com/premierunbelievable Tik Tok: / https://tiktok.com/@premier.unbelievable 👉 Get bonus content, updates, fascinating articles, and early access to new episodes—absolutely free! Join now at www.premierunbelievable.com 🎉📢 • Subscribe to the Unbelievable? podcast: https://www.premier.plus/unbelievable • More shows, free eBook & newsletter: https://premierunbelievable.com • For live events: http://www.unbelievable.live • For online learning: https://www.premierunbelievable.com/training • Support us: https://www.premierunbelievable.com/geolink/donate

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0:00.0

My dad died when I was nine years old and it broke something in me.

0:05.0

I spent lots of times homeless, causing even bigger rifts in the family.

0:10.0

I was out of control.

0:12.0

Green Pastures is a Christian charity providing homes and support for people facing homelessness across the UK.

0:20.0

As soon as I walked in that place,

0:21.6

I knew there was something different about it.

0:23.6

Through Green Pastures,

0:25.6

Andy found a home,

0:26.6

freedom from addiction,

0:28.6

and a new beginning in faith.

0:30.6

It's the best thing I've ever done.

0:31.6

It released me from that 23 years of addiction

0:35.6

and now I'm senior support worker here at Green Pastures Derby.

0:39.8

Find out more at greenpastures.com.uk.

0:46.1

Before the rush takes over, start your Christmas journey with Premier's Advent Moments' interactive calendar.

0:53.8

Open each door and step into the unfolding story of Jesus,

0:58.1

with daily challenges rooted in kindness and a verse that brings you closer to Bethlehem.

1:03.4

You'll also receive short emails of encouragement to help you stay centered through Advent.

1:08.3

Sign up at premier.org.uk slash advent 20205 brought to you by sat 7 UK

1:18.5

Hello welcome back to unbelievable with me your host andy kind today we are in another school

1:24.2

we are somewhere in Aylesbury and i've been been joined again by two aficionados, I think, at this point of the show,

1:32.8

to returning, I was going to say heroes, but returning guests.

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