Welcome to the Recess Room podcast.

Five, four, three, two, one, fire.

So hi, and welcome back to the Recess Room podcast.

I'm Simon Lang.

And I'm Rob Fenwick, and I'm James Yates.

And this is another of our episodes of Roadside to Reesus and a bit of a Christmas special.

So Rob and James rudely haven't asked for any paternity leave, but allegedly the arrival of two new sets and screaming lungs need that we need to pare down the amount of work

that we're doing around this festive period. But we didn't think we could leave you without

anything, so we're going to have a chat about the all-important and controversial handover.

Absolutely. I think this one's going to be slightly different to our normal evidence-based

medicine podcast, and we're going

to be looking much more around our experiences and trying to draw out some useful conclusions

and some practical applications of that, I think. And I think we're going to try not to fight

too much as well. We'll set a good example. I'm sorry, I'm not listening to you, James.

I'm going to start out already.

We haven't even started the podcast,

but I'm going to start out and pick up on Simon's point

because I totally fell into the trap of thinking this was a nice, easy topic,

lighthearted, not too much work to lead us into Christmas

while people just kind of ate their

mince pies and drank them old wine. But man, I was totally wrong when I started to look into the

topic and certainly when we discussed it a wee bit on Twitter. So as a little leading to this podcast

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