You know, Dan Dockett strikes me as a sort of guy who would like Herman Termits.

You listen to that a lot of campus that I, you, like before you shut down Jordan,

was that the theme that you listened to?

I was so backwards, if it wasn't on WLS in Chicago, top 40 hits.

I didn't know, in fact, the friend of mine named Lauren Naraki.

She lives here.

When we refreshed, she's like, Dan, we're going over to Johnny Cougars,

you want to come?

I said, who's Johnny Cougars?

I didn't even know.

I did not know.

This is 1981 in the fall.

I had no idea.

I go, no, how was that?

Well, I'm going to his house.

I feel like inside of Johnny Cougars house, there's a lot of denim.

You walk into that house and like, nobody has a shirt on and there's a lot of denim.

Right.

And somebody's smoking.

I feel like somebody's burning a heater.

No, no, no, no.

He quit smoking because of his heart attack.

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